Re: IBM's J9 for PocketPC 2002

There is a difference here between Personal Java and J2ME Personal Profile.

Jeode I believe is Personal Java I believe. They may have a CDC port out
though?

Also is J9 actually CDC running through a CVM or is it a superset of
Personal Java running through a JVM? The difference is in performance of
course.

Peter


> From: Hector Berna <hector.berna@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: IBM's J9 for PocketPC 2002
> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:15:42 +0100
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> How can be installed the IBM's J9 in a Pocket PC?
>
> Where can I download a trial version?
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> Has it got a plug-in for Pocket Internet Explorer in order to support Java
> Applets ?
> Jeode VM supports Applets.
>
> Thanks
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> Hector
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> > The only CDC option at the moment is on Linux.
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> IBM's J9 is compliant on CDC, Foundation and Personal Profile on PocketPC
> 2002.
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> I also beg to differ on the JSR-075 optional packages. They are very much
> aimed at PDA's.  The
> FileConnection API's will be immensely useful for accessing removable meda
> in a standard way, and
> the PIM API's are flexible enough to support a cell phones limited PIM as
> well as feature (or field)
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> rich implementations on PocketPC or Tungsten T3's (The newer palmOne
> devices have greatly extended
> the
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> You honestly think you can run CDC on a Palm???
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> I think if mobile vendors *could* run CDC at the moment then they would be!
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> The only CDC option at the moment is on Linux.
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> I know the Zaurus has CDC/FP/PP but I do not know if the spanky new
> Motorola
> A760 does. It could do!
>
> So outside of Linux there is no real CDC offering.
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> I know that Personal Profile Basis is being examined by many vendors but
> for
> my money this is not nearly as atractive as Personal Profile. Why? Well
> take
> Personal Java and remove Applets and audio. Hmmm.
>
> As for PDA profile this has become a completely confusing state of affairs.
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> The PDA profile per say no longer exists. Now there are two JSRs aimed at
> File Management and PIM management. BOTH of these JSRs to be honest are of
> more use on a SmartPhone than a Palm. So the PDA profile is no longer
> targetted at the PDA at all! What a waste!!! PDAs SHOULD have their own JSR
> but this has now appeared on the Symbian 7.0 long term road map.
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> Peter
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> >From: Hector Berna <hector.berna@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> >Subject: Re: Why MIDP, not PP? (was Re: MIDP 2.0 beta for palmOne devices
> >now available)
> >Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:21:59 +0100
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> >Or even only support for Personal Java will be welcome.
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> >I know that Personal Java is "End Of Life", but it is better for me than
> >MIDP.
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> >Hector
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> >I'm curious why Palm is putting so much emphasis on MIDP. I would think
> >that the
> >Personal Profile with the PDA optional APIs would be a better fit for
> their
> >new devices.
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> >Anybody have any insight into this?
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> >Mark Balbes
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> >On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:06:01 -0500, Eric Giguere
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> > >FYI, palmOne has released a beta MIDP 2.0/CLDC 1.1 environment.
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