IBM's J9 is compliant on CDC, Foundation and Personal Profile on PocketPC
2002.
Ah yes! There are actually a few Pocket PC options :-)
As for the PDA profile though how can anyone honestly argue that File
management is more useful on a PDA than a SmartPhone??? Most SmartPhones are
PDAs for heavens sake!
I think that the File Management API and PIM API are JUST as useful on PDA
or SmartPhone to be quite fair on this one.
The original idea of the PDA profile if you remember was to add a Personal
Java like UI to the Palm. Then when MIDP 2.0 came on the screen that was
dropped.
So we ended up with a pair of generic file and PIM access APIs.
The amusing thing is I reckon the PDA profile will arrive on SmartPhones
FIRST through later Symbian 7.0 handsets.
I put my flame proof clothes on in anticipation of the reply ;-) LOL
Peter
From: Ken Walker <Ken_Walker@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:04:12 -0500
> The only CDC option at the moment is on Linux.
IBM's J9 is compliant on CDC, Foundation and Personal Profile on PocketPC
2002.
I also beg to differ on the JSR-075 optional packages. They are very much
aimed at PDA's. The
FileConnection API's will be immensely useful for accessing removable meda
in a standard way, and
the PIM API's are flexible enough to support a cell phones limited PIM as
well as feature (or field)
rich implementations on PocketPC or Tungsten T3's (The newer palmOne
devices have greatly extended the
traditional PIM applications).
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IBM Ottawa Lab
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You honestly think you can run CDC on a Palm???
I think if mobile vendors *could* run CDC at the moment then they would
be!
The only CDC option at the moment is on Linux.
I know the Zaurus has CDC/FP/PP but I do not know if the spanky new
Motorola
A760 does. It could do!
So outside of Linux there is no real CDC offering.
I know that Personal Profile Basis is being examined by many vendors but
for
my money this is not nearly as atractive as Personal Profile. Why? Well
take
Personal Java and remove Applets and audio. Hmmm.
As for PDA profile this has become a completely confusing state of
affairs.
The PDA profile per say no longer exists. Now there are two JSRs aimed at
File Management and PIM management. BOTH of these JSRs to be honest are of
more use on a SmartPhone than a Palm. So the PDA profile is no longer
targetted at the PDA at all! What a waste!!! PDAs SHOULD have their own
JSR
but this has now appeared on the Symbian 7.0 long term road map.
Peter
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>Or even only support for Personal Java will be welcome.
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>I know that Personal Java is "End Of Life", but it is better for me than
>MIDP.
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>I'm curious why Palm is putting so much emphasis on MIDP. I would think
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their
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