Re: Why MIDP, not PP? (was Re: MIDP 2.0 beta for palmOne devices now available)

> The only
CDC option at the moment is on Linux.

IBM's J9 is compliant on CDC, Foundation and Personal
Profile on PocketPC 2002.

I also beg to differ on the JSR-075 optional packages.
They are very much aimed at PDA's.  The
FileConnection API's will be immensely useful for
accessing removable meda in a standard way, and
the PIM API's are flexible enough to support a cell
phones limited PIM as well as feature (or field)
rich implementations on PocketPC or Tungsten T3's
(The newer palmOne devices have greatly extended the
traditional PIM applications).

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Ken Walker, J9 Class Library Team Leader
IBM Ottawa Lab
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You honestly think you can run CDC on a Palm???

I think if mobile vendors *could* run CDC at the moment then they would
be!

The only CDC option at the moment is on Linux.

I know the Zaurus has CDC/FP/PP but I do not know if the spanky new Motorola
A760 does. It could do!

So outside of Linux there is no real CDC offering.

I know that Personal Profile Basis is being examined by many vendors but
for
my money this is not nearly as atractive as Personal Profile. Why? Well
take
Personal Java and remove Applets and audio. Hmmm.

As for PDA profile this has become a completely confusing state of affairs.

The PDA profile per say no longer exists. Now there are two JSRs aimed
at
File Management and PIM management. BOTH of these JSRs to be honest are
of
more use on a SmartPhone than a Palm. So the PDA profile is no longer
targetted at the PDA at all! What a waste!!! PDAs SHOULD have their own
JSR
but this has now appeared on the Symbian 7.0 long term road map.

Peter

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>Or even only support for Personal Java will be welcome.
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>I know that Personal Java is "End Of Life", but it is better
for me than
>MIDP.
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>I'm curious why Palm is putting so much emphasis on MIDP. I would think
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>Personal Profile with the PDA optional APIs would be a better fit for
their
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