[xmlc] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [barracuda] Re: Re: XMLC 2.3.1 is out

Hi Franck,

I appreciate the sentiment.  I have put quite a bit of effort into XMLC (and
Barracuda in past years).  I'm happy you've stuck around and taken up the mantle
for Barracuda and I really appreciate any help I can get on XMLC.  It's a useful
tool that I didn't want to see go into the dustbin, so I decided it should be
updated for the times to prevent that consequence (because no one else I know 
was
going to).  After this release, I think it'll be in a pretty good and useful
state.  More could be done (especially around dynamic loading, such as being 
able
to use interfaces with dynamic proxies to allow for using XMLC concepts without
requiring the compile-time step), but time's tight.  We'll see what happens.

Back to the NekoHTML stuff, unfortunately, the primary developer of NekoHTML
(ATM), Marc Guillemot, is uncomfortable with your changes.  Actually, he agrees
with your comments about some of the commented out lines being needed for other
scenarios that you pointed out.  I asked if he had any suggestions for changes.
What he came back with is to commit to coming up with one or more test cases 
that
would show breakage using your current line ending handling solution.  Once we
have that, we can try to come up with a solution that meets our needs while
passing the test cases.

I'll let you know when he comes up with them.  Hopefully we can work out a 
better
solution in short order.

later,

Jake

Franck Routier wrote:
> Hello Jake,
> 
> I'm glad I could help! I feel like in debt with you for all the work you
> put in xmlc and Barracuda :)
> 
> Regards,
> Franck
> 
> 
> Le mardi 08 juillet 2008 à 22:49 -0600, Jacob Kjome a écrit :
>> Hi Franck,
>>
>> I tried out your patch and it works great!  I submitted it along with your
>> comments to the original bug I reported.  Hopefully they pick this up and 
>> apply it
>> ASAP!  Thanks for your efforts in finding a fix :-)
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1939338&group_id=195122&atid=952178
>>
>>
>> Jake
>>
>> Franck Routier wrote:
>>> Just a side note:
>>>
>>> the code in HTMLScanner was really hard to read (using idioms like post
>>> incrementing protected fields while using it as a table index (!) makes
>>> things really tricky to me), but:
>>>
>>> as I understand it, the code I commented out in the patch might have
>>> been useful in a case where a new line character (\r or \n) would have
>>> occured at the end of a buffer... not really sure. I added another unit
>>> test in your patched HTMLScannerTest with many \n\n to try to meet the
>>> condition where it would have been useful but couldn't break anything :)
>>>
>>> Well. Maybe the one who wrote the code first would have a better view on
>>> it...
>>>
>>> Franck
>>>
>>> Le mardi 08 juillet 2008 à 20:07 +0200, Franck Routier a écrit :
>>>> Hi Jake,
>>>>
>>>> I have come to a patch to HTMLScanner that solves the line endings
>>>> problems.
>>>>
>>>> Every other unit tests in NekoHTML still pass... but I commented out
>>>> some code that might have been useful in cases not covered by the tests.
>>>> Or not :)
>>>>
>>>> So, I send the patch to you, maybe you can have a look on it, before
>>>> submiting to NekoHTML mainteners.
>>>>
>>>> Franck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le samedi 05 juillet 2008 à 12:11 -0500, Jacob Kjome a écrit :
>>>>> Hi Franck,
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest you check out the source rather than downloading the 
>>>>> distribution.  
>>>>> And the problem is in HTMLScanner.java.  See the following email list 
>>>>> thread 
>>>>> for more information.  BTW, I can understand your being lost in the code. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> It's the same reason why I haven't come up with a patch yet.  Every 
>>>>> change I 
>>>>> make to the code only introduces other bugs.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=47FDC3EF.7050308%40visi.com&forum_name=nekohtml-developer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jake
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:26:34 +0200
>>>>>   Franck Routier <franck.routier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Jake,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regarding the NeckoHTML bug you describe, I have tried to download
>>>>>> nekoTHLML code and poke around, but I am lost in it... Do you have a
>>>>>> clue where I should look first ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Franck
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le lundi 30 juin 2008 à 23:13 -0600, Jacob Kjome a écrit :
>>>>>>> Franck Routier wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we, at Axege sarl (http://www.axege.com - in french) use Barracuda, and
>>>>>>>> thus xmlc, for our flagship 'Axege Santé', a CPM solution for 
>>>>>>>> healthcare
>>>>>>>> organizations.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We serve 5 hospitals from 700 to 5000 beds, and have around 10-15 users
>>>>>>>> per site (for now).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am sure xmlc is also used outside of Barracuda, but Jake would tell
>>>>>>>> you better than I can.
>>>>>>> Actually, I have to admit that I'm a bit out of touch with who uses 
>>>>>>> XMLC 
>>>>>>> lately.
>>>>>>> It would be nice to get a better idea of it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, if anyone out there thinks they can correct a bug in NekoHTML 
>>>>>>> having to 
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> with over-reading input streams of files with Unix and Mac line 
>>>>>>> endings, as
>>>>>>> opposed to Windows line endings where it reads it correctly, I sure you 
>>>>>>> hope 
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> speak up and provide a patch.  It's the reason I pulled the XMLC 2.3.1 
>>>>>>> (and
>>>>>>> 2.1.17) release shortly after I put it out there.  Once it's fixed and 
>>>>>>> we 
>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>> new NekoHTML release, I'll re-release...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1939338&group_id=195122&atid=952178
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jake
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Franck Routier
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le jeudi 26 juin 2008 à 18:11 -0700, neerashish a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> Can you please point me to the list of companies/websites using XMLC 
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> production.
>>>>>>>>> What is the biggest site using XMLC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacob Kjome wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to announce the release of XMLC-2.3.1!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Users of XMLC 2.2.xx are encouraged to upgrade to XMLC 2.3.1, though 
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> sure to
>>>>>>>>>> read xmlc-2-3-release-note.html and xmlc-2-3-1-release-note.html 
>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>> doing so.
>>>>>>>>>>   Enjoy!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Download at:
>>>>>>>>>> http://forge.objectweb.org/projects/xmlc/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> XMLC 2.3.1 includes all relevant features/enhancements/fixes in XMLC
>>>>>>>>>> 2.2.17 plus...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bug Fixes...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Got rid of last remnants of "org.enhydra.apache" and
>>>>>>>>>> "org/enhydra/apache" namespaces
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed NullPointerException in OutputOptions.toString()
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed expansion of LazyEntityReference and LazyEntity in Lazydom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> General Updates...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Updated to Xerces 2.9.1 and NekoHTML 1.9.7
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> See xmlc-2-3-1-release-note.html for more info
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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