Re: Java for Mac OS X 10.5 Update 5 Developer Preview (9M3092)

I must admit that the lack of an easy un-install for Java is odd. One would
imagine that more people would be prepared to try early access software if
it could be easily un-installed.

On other hand, if you were really serious about testing it, as your business
relied on it, then, as disk space is cheap, why not just buy a external 1TB
drive?

I guess our colleagues at Apple have figured this out and have realised that
the useful feedback is, anyway, from people who are thorough about testing,
and who will have the dedicated images for that, so as to have a controlled
environment. 

Meanwhile, I can sympathise with the idea that you might be a bit
frustrated, especially given the ambivalence that Apple seem to have about
Java

Mike and his colleagues, though, are trying hard, with the resources that
they have, to support their community, so we ought to give them some credit
for that.

Regards

Nathan

On 30/07/2009 11:49, "Erik Larsson" <catacombae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Ulrich Kortenkamp wrote:
>> 
>> Am 30.07.2009 um 11:29 schrieb Erik Larsson:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Sure, but I can't physically squeeze more than 500 MB into my MacBook
>>> Pro, and I don't carry around tons of large external drives with me
>>> all the time.
>> 
>> Then you can easily partition your internal drive and set away around
>> 30 GB for testing. Also, you don't have to carry around tons of large
>> external drives all the time if it is just for the purpose of checking
>> the pre-release version of Java.
> 
> Okay, so for a development machine we have a spare 30 GB for a 'testing'
> Leopard install, a spare 30 GB for Snow Leopard, 30 GB for a 'testing'
> Snow Leopard install, 30 GB for Tiger (if it would even run on the newer
> Macs), etc. etc.
> You have to realize that this is just not something that I'm prepared to
> go through. I do fill up my hard drives quite easily, and 30 GB is a lot
> of space to waste. I already have to cram two OS X installs + Windows
> bloody Vista and Linux into the machine. And I tend use the disk space
> for other things than operating systems too...
> 
> When I have to go through this amount of work just to help improving
> Apple's products, I'm simply wondering what's in it for me.
> 
>>> Anything that can be done to get more people to test developer
>>> previews would be good as it improves the quality of the software
>>> that we get. Don't you agree with me here?
>> 
>> Sure. Here is another option: Use Time Machine to roll back your
>> system folders.
>> 
>> Seriously, it *is* easy to test the developer previews, and there is
>> no excuse not to do it.
> 
> If it's so easy, then why aren't people doing it? Just look at all the
> bugs in the latest Java update.
> Your definition of easy is surely not what most people would call easy.
> 
> - Erik
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