Re: Default to quiet references

Again, that's not always the case. Defaults might belong to the data 
model, in which case the template should see references 
"preinstantiated" and silencing might cover a bug, or they might belong 
to the presentation logic, in which case coding them in the template is 
OK.

I still think that silent references by default is a bad idea.

Matías.

On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 04:06 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

> Some might argue that you should put a default value in the data model 
> - i.e. it shouldn't be up to the template.
>
> On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 01:47 PM, Matías Giovannini wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 03:25 PM, Serge Knystautas wrote:
> >
> > > Peter Romianowski wrote:
> > > > This is bordering on the undesired feature that you can't tell what 
> > > > the syntax means from looking at the code.
> > > > Some feel (I'm 50/50) that if you see $!foo, that it should do one 
> > > > thing, not be controlled by some outside switch. +1 on that. It 
> > > > would mess up things. If you need such a feature
> > > > you should do something like Andy Lee supposed.
> > > > Just my $0.02
> > > > Peter
> > >
> > > Yeah, I'd have to agree after thinking about it for exactly that 
> > > reason... you can't know the syntax just from the code.
> > >
> > > I'll just do my best to educate users why they need to put $! 
> > > everywhere.
> >
> > The problem is, it might not be needed *everywhere*. For instance, 
> > suppose you want to put a label when some variable is undefined, as 
> > in "N/A".
> >
> > I have a macro #isnull($var, "default") that I use in the cases that 
> > silencing is not really appropriate:
> >
> > #macro (isnull $x $dflt)
> >         #if ($x) $x
> >         #else $dflt
> >         #end
> > #end
> >
> > HTH,
> > Matías.
> >
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