Re: [rt.icann.org #3528] FW: General Request for Assignments (ppp-numbers)

Vernon Schryver writes:
> > Unfortunately, Vern's RFC 3818 doesn't cover ECP assignments, so it
> > appears we're still stuck with expert review.  That means we need to
> > discuss it here and report consensus back.
> 
> My now vague recollections are that 3818 does not mention ECP because
> a similar document was advanced specifically for ECP.  I can't seem
> to find it in the RFC index.

Nor could I.

> > I read through BB84, and it appears to be a key-exchange protocol, not
> > an encryption algorithm.  Also, it appears to work only with direct
> > access to physical media and not with the regular bit stream that PPP
> > itself requires.  Thus, I suspect it may not be really appropriate as
> > an ECP option, though I suppose it may open up a possibly interesting
> > discussion about whether we *should* talk about key distribution as an
> > ECP option.  (Whether of the ordinary algorithmic sort, or the more
> > hand-wavy x-files area-51 "quantum" sort.)
> 
> Where did you read about BB84 for PPP?  

I just read about BB84, not its use with PPP, but it seems fairly
clear to me that since BB84 needs access to a physical layer transport
between peers, it's not *just* an ECP option.

> My first thought when I read the message from Michelle Cotton was that
> someone is playing a practical joke on the IANA.  It is possible that
> someone sane seriously wants to do PPP with quantum cryptography, but
> I'd like to see an I-D or at least something more substantial than the
> short note from Mohamed Ali.

I agree.  It seemed dubious to me.

> There have been some serious quantum cryptography efforts that I'd not
> call hand-wavy x-files area-51, but they've all been a little "academic"
> as opposed to "industrial."  Before the IANA fires up a registry, there
> must be an IETF protocol that would use it.  So where is the I-D?

So, let's have a hum of agreement.  Anyone disagree that we should ask
to see the I-D published before the code point is assigned?

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