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Re: PPP over Sonet default MRU: msg#00046

Subject: Re: PPP over Sonet default MRU
I don't read the list regularly, but somebody asked me to look over this 
thread.  I'd like to affirm some of what Carlson said, but correct a few 
mistakes.  (And I also didn't read most of the HTML mail.)

On Configure-Reject:

  Implementation of -Reject is mandatory.  But it doesn't mean that you 
  have implemented MRU or anything else.  You're just rejecting a raw 
  option number.  

  Carlson says (which confuses the issue a bit) it could also mean 
  "I know what this is, but I don't want it".  That's not correct. 
  When you know what it is, you MUST send -Nak, instead (except in the 
  case of boolean options; see, it confuses the issue :-).

On Configure-Nak:

  Implementation of -Nak is mandatory.  In the case at hand, where an 
  MTU is configured to 4470, the implementation MAY -Nak with MRU 4470:
      Finally, an implementation may be configured to request the
      negotiation of a specific Configuration Option.  If that option is
      not listed, then that option MAY be appended to the list of Nak'd
      Configuration Options, in order to prompt the peer to include that
      option in its next Configure-Request packet.  Any value fields for
      the option MUST indicate values acceptable to the Configure-Nak
      sender.

  That doesn't mean that the peer will send a -Request with MRU 4470. 
  It "MAY"!  (see the full text)

On MRU:

  Implementation of MRU is optional.  But MRU has a default.  In most 
  cases, that default is 1500.  (For example, with some kinds of links, 
  such as Frame Relay, it's 1600.  We chose *NOT* to make it larger for 
  SONET/SDH.)

  At the end of a successful negotiation, when all is said and done, 
  and the peer has not negotiated MRU, it is absolutely prohibited to 
  send more than 1500 bytes. 

      The maximum length for the Information field, including Padding,
      but not including the Protocol field, is termed the Maximum
      Receive Unit (MRU), which defaults to 1500 octets.  By
      negotiation, consenting PPP implementations may use other values
      for the MRU.
      [RFC 1661, Page 5]

  It doesn't matter than some miscreant operator has accidentally 
  configured MTU 4470.  Sending 4470 into a link with a 1500 MRU is 
  non-conformant.  As you say in your 1st message, it is "wrong". 
  (And, in every implementation I've ever done, would be discarded.)

  Contrary to Carlson's assertion, manual configuration MUST NOT 
  ignore the PPP negotiation.  PPP is intended to be resilient in 
  the face of operator error. 
      ...
      implementor can specify improvements to the default configuration,
      which are automatically communicated to the peer without operator
      intervention.  Finally, the operator may explicitly configure
      options for the link which enable the link to operate in
      environments where it would otherwise be impossible.
      [RFC 1661, Page 2]

  In order for an implementor to specify an improvement, or an operator 
  to configure an option, that option MUST be implemented, and negotiated 
  with the peer.

The whole point of PPP is the option negotiation.  We already knew that 
SLIP sucked, as did a host of others (SLFP, cisco HDLC, and on and on),
because they were hard to successfully configure, as the implementors 
all had different ideas about what was "best", and the operators made
too many mistakes.
 
If it doesn't negotiate options, it's not PPP!

-- 
William Allen Simpson
    Key fingerprint =  17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26  DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32



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