Re: Almost certainly (was Re: Finding and nurturing the bright sparks of genius)

On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 06:08:07AM -0700, Spencer Dawkins allegedly
wrote:
> Thre PESCI team has many people that I like AND respect on it, but
> whaever the current draft says, the IETF does NOT have 30-something
> principles.

Good, we've got you thinking about it.  In order to discuss processes
for process change, we have to agree on core principles, and not take
short cuts on doing so. 

> My suggestion, based on not a lot of sleep or thought, is that the
> BOF focus on getting community feedback on what the principles are,
> and the list of 30-something is a reasonable starting point to
> winnow from.

I'd prefer doing *most* of this via mail (i.e. some can be done in the
BOF but just to get it moving).  It *should* be a long discussion, and
participants should think and feel deeply between comments.  

> I can say this on this list, on the IETF list, at the BOF, or at the
> plenary, but whatever else we need between Vancouver and Dallas for
> process evolution to move forward, we need to know those principles.

Yes.

swb