Minutes for PESCI team meeting 12/10/05

(Sent for Adrian Farrel)

PESCI meeting 12th October 2005, 2pm GMT

Michael, Elwyn, Scott, Brian, Harald, Adrian

Adrian taking notes

Agenda
- BOF
- Provide clarity for final edit by Elwyn

* BOF
- BOF will be hosted by Bert and Sam as Gen Area ADs
- Sam and Bert will decide who will chair
- PESCI team doesn't mind who chairs so long as:
  - fair and neutral
  - has some clue about IETF process

* Open issues with revision F of the draft
- Discussed the level of support required within the IETF for process
change
- Talked around issue of "making it as easy as possible for open
participation"
   - Used input from pesci-discuss and existing RFCs
- Listed current capabilities needed by ADs
  - technically competent
  - human managers
  - operational managers
  - developers of process
  Agreed that these capabilities do not all constitute a principle, but
the first
  two probably do.
- Discussed which component bodies/roles are stable
  - Considered in particular what role the IAB should have in process
change
- Identified potential issues when roles overlap

* Next Steps (section in I-D)
- Examined whether a design team is appropriate and acceptable
  as a way of advancing process change. Issues include:
  - A design team is able to focus and produce work for open discussion
  - The design team would need a charter
  - How does the design team get formed?
  - Multiple design teams are acceptable

* Next Steps (for PESCI work)
- Further round of feedback from team to Elwyn ASAP (within 12 hours)
- New version of I-D delivered to team by start of US business Friday
- Comments back to Elwyn by Sunday evening
- Aim to submit on or before 17th October

[is in I-D queue right now...]