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Re: Vpns vs explicit null label: msg#00164

ietf.mpls

Subject: Re: Vpns vs explicit null label


David> this sort of half-PHP is really the provence of the LSR that
David> originated the label. Only consequence of such a spec change is the
David> upstream LSR should not squawk or place limitations on such a label
David> if received.

When the egress node E sends an LDP message binding explicit null to a
particular FEC, it is telling the penultimate node P that, under certain
circumstances, when P receives an MPLS packet from some third node, P should
swap the top label of that packet with explicit null. P will do this when
the FEC corresponding to the incoming label of the packet is the same FEC to
which E has bound explicit null.

Strictly speaking E should only bind explicit null to a particular FEC if it
somehow knows that any packets which P sees that correspond to that FEC will
be carrying label stacks of no more than one label. In practice, though, it
is difficult to make E obey this restriction.

I think what you're saying is that if E gets a packet with explicit null at
the top of the stack, it has gotten what it asked for, and should handle it
in the obvious way. I agree with this, and I'd assumed that this is what
would generally be done. But the spec never made this clear. So we've seen
cases where E throws the packet away as malformed, and I think we've also
seen cases where P throws the packet away rather than sending a "malformed"
packet. These lead to lack of interoperability. I think we've also seen
cases where P, when processing a packet with more than one label, will treat
explicit null as if it had been implicit null; this at least is
interoperable.

So perhaps what should really be required is:

- When the egress LSR pops off explicit null, it should attend to the
IPv4/v6 type. Other nodes treat the two kinds of explicit null as
equivalent.

- When asked to put explicit null on the top of a label stack, one MAY do
so, but one SHOULD treat explicit null as if it were implicit null. (Not
sure about that "should".)

- When creating a label stack with explicit null somewhere in the middle,
one MAY put it there, but one SHOULD simply remove it.







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