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Re: Regarding the charter revision w.r.t the IPsec SA and IKEv2: msg#00168

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Subject: Re: Regarding the charter revision w.r.t the IPsec SA and IKEv2

Raj,

Perhaps you could convey this message to NWG?

jak

----- Original Message ----- From: "Basavaraj Patil" <basavaraj.patil@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mip6@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Eronen Pasi (Nokia-NRC/Helsinki)" <Pasi.Eronen@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:19 PM
Subject: [Mip6] Regarding the charter revision w.r.t the IPsec SA and IKEv2



In discussions with Pasi Eronen, I believe there is really nothing specific
that needs to be done w.r.t MIP6 and IKEv2 as far as dead-peer-detection is
concerned.

Pasi's comment was:
"
When using IPsec for MIP6, there is no need to send any keepalives.
IKE may do Dead Peer Detection (DPD) occasionally, but this is a
configurable parameter (just like binding lifetime) and doing DPD,
say, once every 8 hours does not seem unacceptable to me. And doing
DPD (and Binding Updates) every N hours is IMHO *MUCH* better solution
than introducing hard state (as someone already pointed out on the
list).

(In the NAT case, we typically need keepalives every 30 seconds, and
the endpoints can't choose any other internal since it depends on the
NAT, not the endpoints.)
"

Hence I believe that there is not really any concern as far as IPsec/IKEv2
is concerned in the context of MIP6.

-Raj

P.s: I had to forward Pasi's note since he is not registered on the MIP6
list


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