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RE: concerns about draft-devarapalli-mip6-ikev1-bootstrap-00.txt: msg#00329

Subject: RE: concerns about draft-devarapalli-mip6-ikev1-bootstrap-00.txt
 
Francis,

>
>I maintain my previous concerns about MODECFG and XAUTH. Now 
>I've read the whole document and I have some other concerns:
> - there are some normative references to documents which timed out
>   many years ago
> - there should be security considerations about the well known
>   essential insecurity of XAUTH (*)

It uses Hybrid authentication which essentially supports
asymmetric authentication for the entities. Hybrid
uses XAUTH but differently. See draft-kelly-ipsra-userauth-00.txt
on why Hybrid does not have the same secrity issues as XAUTH.
The reason we put this there is to support cases like where
the MN just has a MN-AAA shared secret.
 
> - I am not convinced DHCPv6 can be used over IKE as described:
>   DHCPv6 is designed to run between the client and the first 
>relay/server
>   over a link using multicast and link-local addresses. So it 
>runs without
>   problem over L2TP/PPP between a client and a NAS. Here we 
>have a tunnel
>   mode IPsec which is pretty different than a real tunnel interface.

RFC 3775 assumes that IPsec is modeled as an interface.
This one shows 
http://www.research.earthlink.net/ipv6/ipv6-ipsec-tunnels.pdf
how DHCPv6 can be secured using IPsec. So, i don't understand
your concern.

-mohan


>So sections 3.1, 3.2 (HoA config) and 4 (SA setup) are at 
>least questionable.
>The remaining spec is the section 5 (DNS update) which is 
>already in a bootstrapping document... So I am sorry but IMHO 
>there is nothing really useful today in the document

>Regards
>
>Francis.Dupont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>(*): If someone knows Jose Puthenkulam, ask him to refresh its I-D.
>



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