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Re: Invalidated Authorization State (WAS: authmeth-15 notes): msg#00026ietf.ldapbis
I am generally opposed to the inclusion of Section 4.3 and the uses of the word "invalidate" as it applies to "state". State comprises multiple factors... and events (in TLS, LDAP, elsewhere) can alter these factors. A client always has some authorization state at the server. If the current state prevents the server from processing the operation, the server returns the non-successful result code best describing the nature of the problem WITH THIS REQUEST. That is, result codes are generally not indicative of problems in the session, certainly not indicative of the outcome of future requests. In particular, just be strongerAuthRequired was returned for a particular request does not imply that repeating the same request will again result in strongerAuthRequired. The factor(s) within the authorization state that previously lead to the strongerAuthRequired return could have changed... or the policy could have been changed. For starters, 3.2 needs work: Change heading to: TLS Effects on Authorization Factors Replace: The decision to keep or invalidate the established authorization state (section 4.3) after TLS layer installation or removal is a matter of local server policy. with: The existence of TLS protective services, particulars of that services, as well as service events (e.g., establishment, closure, change ciphersuite), are often factors in making authorization and other decisions are a local matter. For instance, establishment or closure of TLS may result in the state being moved to an anonymous (or anonymous equivalent) state (see section 4) as it applies to this request. Rationale: A server is free after establishment of TLS to require re-authentication for some set of operations and not for others. For instance, the server could allow read operations under the previously established authorization identity but require re-authentication before write operations will be processed. Section 4: Replace the whole section (including subsections) with: Every LDAP session has an associated authorization state. This state comprises of numerous factors such as what (if any) authorization identity has been established and how, what security services are in place, etc.. Some factors may be determined and/or effected by protocol events (e.g., Bind, StartTLS, TLS closure), some factors may be determined by external events (e.g., time of day, server load). While is often convenient to view authorization state in simplistic terms (as we often do in this technical specifications) such as "an anonymous state", it is noted that authorization systems in LDAP implementations commonly involve many factors which relate in complex manners. Authorization in LDAP are a local matter. One of the key factors in making authorization decisions is authorization identity. Upon establishment of the LDAP session, the session has an anonymous authorization state. The Bind operation is used to establish an authorization identity. The Bind operation may also be used to move the LDAP session to an anonymous authorization state. Upon receipt of the Bind request, the server immediately moves the session to an anonymous authorization state. If the request was to move the session to an anonymous state and successful, the state remains anonymous. If the request was to establish a new authorization identity and successful, upon return success the state is moved to an authenticated state. Otherwise, the session remains in an anonymous state. It is noted that other events, in LDAP or external, may result in the authorization state being moved to an anonymous one. For instance, establishment, change, or closure of security services may result in a move to an anonymous state, or the user's credential information (e.g., certificate) may have expired. The former is an example of an event internal to the protocol. The second is an example of an external event. At 12:12 PM 9/26/2005, Roger Harrison wrote: >>>> Hallvard B Furuseth <h.b.furuseth@xxxxxxxxxxx> 09/22/05 4:26 pm >>> > > >> > 4.3. Invalidated Authorization State > >> > > >> > The server may invalidate the existing authorization state at any > >> > time, e.g. if an established security layer between the client and > >> > server has unexpectedly failed or been compromised. A resultCode of > >> > strongerAuthRequired may indicate that such a condition exists. In > >> > practice, the strongerAuthRequired resultCode means that the client > >> > needs to bind to (re)establish a suitably strong authorization state > >> > before the server will attempt to perform the requested operation. > >> > In order to permit clients to establish such an authorization state, > >> > servers should not respond to Bind, Unbind, and StartTLS requests > >> > with the stongerAuthRequired resultCode. > >> > >> When was this decided? Copied from my message > >> <http://www.openldap.org/lists/ietf-ldapbis/200503/msg00006.html>, > >> > >> The last I remember, we gave up on having invalidated associations > >> return a result to a rejected request: thread 'Result code for > >> invalidated associations', 2004. The whole mess about them doing so > >> just got too ugly. Instead, if a request is rejected because the > >> association is invalidated, just send Notice of Disconnection and > >> terminate the session. I don't remember which result code we ended > >> up with; I think that issue came up in several threads. > >> > >> I'm sure it turned out ot be reasons why no result code was suitable for > >> responses to normal requests during invalidated associations, but I'm > >> not going to dig that up now. Of course these reasons may have been > >> wrong... > >I reviewed the email thread Hallvard mentions above both before publishing >authmeth-15 and again today. I see a lot of discussion regarding possibilities >for dealing with this, but I don't see any clear conclusion that the proper >behavior is to send a Notice of Disconnection. I would appreciate help from WG >members as to whether I am not simply not seeing the conclusions on this or if >we still have an open issue here. > >> > >> Hallvard > >Roger |
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