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Re: Tutorial covering third and final part of "demo" app from AWDWR book ready

OOP i get (coming from a java background), syntax and semantics are the confusing parts (and a limited knowledge of what ruby expects) that have been my biggest barriers. The poignant guide has helped a lot with understanding ruby. http://qa.poignantguide.net/crazy way to write a book but, it really works.On 2/27/06, Victor Kane <victorkane@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Is it Ruby per se, a problem of syntax; or the object oriented paradigm itself??? My feeling is materials have to be drawn up for diving into the OOP perspective.On 2/27/06, Steven Ross <nowhiding@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I think my lack of understanding with the book was on a ruby level, not a rails level. So I droped the book for awhile to dig into ruby. I think that is key.On 2/26/06, Abe Burnett <abe.burnett@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I appreciate your work on these tutorials. I too am working my way through the AWDWR book and finding it perhaps a little overly simplistic regarding the essential understanding of the framework in the beginning. On the other hand, I like that it doesn't take forever to get into actual programming, but it would've been nice to have more hand-holding type explanations as I did the first element of the Depot tutorial (the product administration interface). I'm still hopeful that maybe the whole of the book will yield an thorough enough understanding of Rails to provide the knowledge I need to start building other apps. We'll see though. Your work, though, is SURE to be of immense value to the Rails (and RadRails) communities.Thanks!AbeOn 2/26/06, Victor Kane < victorkane@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I have now finished the third of three parts of the fully illustrated, step by step RadRails demo, this one focusing on polishing off the demo app found in Chapter 4 of the AWDWR book.At  http://wiki.awebfactory.com.ar/awebfactory/published/RadRails , the following tutorial choices are offered:Go ahead and InstallRadRails. Agile Web Development on Rails Demo app: DemoAppPart1 ("Hello, Rails!")Agile Web Development on Rails Demo app: DemoAppPart2 (SVN repository, commit changes)Agile Web Development on Rails Demo app: DemoAppPart3 (further develop and polish off demo)Next I shall forge ahead with the more ambitious Depot app from the same book, after taking issue with the (what seems to me) shallow approach taken to process, analysis and design (agile or otherwise) in the book. My end goal, apart from the tutorial itself, is to perfect my own understanding of Rails per se, and to end up with a tried and proven development and deployment environment, with which to tackle an original sample web app of my own, which I will also publish in the same space. Enjoy, and comments are more than welcome.Victor Kane _______________________________________________RadRails mailing listRadRails@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.radrails.org/mailman/listinfo/radrails _______________________________________________RadRails mailing listRadRails@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.radrails.org/mailman/listinfo/radrails-- Steven Rossweb application & interface developer http://www.zerium.com [phone] 404-488-4364 _______________________________________________RadRails mailing listRadRails@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.radrails.org/mailman/listinfo/radrails _______________________________________________RadRails mailing listRadRails@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.radrails.org/mailman/listinfo/radrails-- Steven Rossweb application & interface developer http://www.zerium.com [phone] 404-488-4364 _______________________________________________ RadRails mailing list RadRails@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.radrails.org/mailman/listinfo/radrails

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Re: patches

Is there some way to moderate the publication of a ticket before it's actually granted to be a real bug ? _______________________________________________ RadRails mailing list RadRails@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.radrails.org/mailman/listinfo/radrails

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In looking at the tickets it looks like there are a lot of tickets opened where people just can't find things or they don't realize that deleting the metadata folder would probably fix their problem. Ie: one about changing a font size (which you can clearly do - they just didn't find the button aparently or understand the process). There was another one where it looked like someone should just delete the metadata folder because the configuration isn't picking up RDT. Maybe a large part of these could be solved with a troubleshooting guide or faq in help or something.On 2/27/06, Steven Ross < nowhiding@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:ok so how do you guys divy out the work? just look at any unassigned tickets? On 2/26/06, Steven Ross < nowhiding@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:ah ok that is probably it On 2/26/06, Matt Kent <matt@xxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote: Click on the Problems tab down by the Console and you should see descriptions of the errors that are occurring. One thing I can think of is that you'll also need the RDT plug-ins, either installed in Eclipse or checked out into your workspace.On 2/26/06, Steven Ross < nowhiding@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: hm, thats what I did... when I switch to plugin mode there is an "!" and "x" on two of the folders org.radrails.rails.ui >src>meta-infplugin.xmland org.radrails.rails-feature has a "!" on feature.xmlOn 2/26/06, Matt Kent < matt@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: You do not need to have the plug-ins installed. Just check out all the source from svn.On 2/26/06, Steven Ross < nowhiding@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:I'm getting "errors exist in org.radrails.rails.ui one thing that wasn't clear was do I need to have the radrails plugin installed too? or just grab the source from svn? On 2/25/06, Matt Kent <matt@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I've attached a screenshot that shows the Run menu and the target platform configuration. If you click on the Plug-ins tab on that menu, you can configure which plug-ins in your workspace to include in the target platform launch. By default, all plug-ins are included. Let me know if you need any more help.On 2/25/06, Steven Ross < nowhiding@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: could someone help me with getting eclipse setup to patch radrails? I don't use eclipse as an editor so I'm not familiar with it and it seems the patches page on the trac is a little out of synch with the current version of eclipse. I am stuck at the run part on the patches page... The interface doesn't seem to match the instructions-- Steven Rossweb application & interface developer http://www.zerium.com[phone] 404-488-4364 _______________________________________________RadRails mailing listRadRails@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.radrails.org/mailman/listinfo/radrails _______________________________________________RadRails mailing listRadRails@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.radrails.org/mailman/listinfo/radrails-- Steven Rossweb application & interface developer http://www.zerium.com[phone] 404-488-4364 _______________________________________________RadRails mailing listRadRails@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.radrails.org/mailman/listinfo/radrails _______________________________________________RadRails mailing listRadRails@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.radrails.org/mailman/listinfo/radrails-- Steven Rossweb application & interface developer http://www.zerium.com [phone] 404-488-4364 _______________________________________________RadRails mailing listRadRails@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.radrails.org/mailman/listinfo/radrails _______________________________________________RadRails mailing listRadRails@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.radrails.org/mailman/listinfo/radrails-- Steven Rossweb application & interface developer http://www.zerium.com [phone] 404-488-4364 -- Steven Rossweb application & interface developer http://www.zerium.com[phone] 404-488-4364 -- Steven Rossweb application & interface developer http://www.zerium.com[phone] 404-488-4364 _______________________________________________ RadRails mailing list RadRails@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.radrails.org/mailman/listinfo/radrails

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Is there some way to moderate the publication of a ticket before it's actually granted to be a real bug ? _______________________________________________ RadRails mailing list RadRails@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.radrails.org/mailman/listinfo/radrails