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Re: RE: Another post from the same guy about 400 support.: msg#00711

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Subject: Re: RE: Another post from the same guy about 400 support.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Clayton Ware" <Clayton.Ware-6tN4nzCoH/hBDgjK7y7TUQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Mark Purcell [MAP]" <map-hdgEqy5R1AG+FmPSFd0fl9Bc4/FLrbF6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "TINI Interest Group" <tini-6tN4nzCoH/hBDgjK7y7TUQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 12:21 AM
Subject: RE: [TINI] RE: Another post from the same guy about 400 support.


<snip>
> > You mentioned lack of formal documentation in your previous
> > email. We have many documents on our web site which detail
> > the DSTINIm400 and DSTINIs400. The datasheets for both are
> > online at http://www.maxim-ic.com/DSTINIM400 and
> > http://www.maxim-ic.com/DSTINIS400. Many application notes
> > have been published over the last several months including
> > app notes 712, 711, 710, 615, 614, 613, 612, 708, 703, 704,
> > 609, 707, 709, and 706. These are all documents which relate
> > to the DS80C400 or DSTINIm400. In addition, we are heavily
> > advertising worldwide and have published an Engineering
> > Review dedicated to Networked Microcontrollers. They should
> > be in the mail now for people who might be interested.
> > The app notes can be found at
> >
> > Clayton

With all due respect Clayton a couple of woefully inadequate 'datasheets'
and a clutch of application notes doesn't really constitute formal
documentation IMO. (BTW http://www.maxim-ic.com/DSTINIS400 link is broken).

Firstly, I'm not the only one who has mentioned this. See Geir's post:
http://lists.dalsemi.com/maillists/tini/2003-June/026871.html. I agree with
all his points here. Searching through application notes, filtering the
inevitable repetitions as they are intended as stand-alone documents, and
scouring archives for relevant information is about as inefficient as you
can get!

Secondly, all the relevant information as Geir says should be collated and
put in one place. There should be a TINI User Guide similar to Don Loomis'
book for the TINIx400. You should have a full and complete TINIm400
specification that includes a mechanical spec, a *full* electrical spec
including capacitive and DC loading headroom information, and complete
timing diagrams. Also a complete list of components with manufactures full
part numbers. It should in effect be treated like a component in it's own
right as I believe a large number of designers will elect to include a
TINIm400 module in a custom socket board design; this is a cheap and low
risk way of getting a product onto the market quickly, and to do this
requires a detailed datasheet with all the information I have mentioned.

A lot of this information is already out there, but it is scattered all over
the place. Add all this to the lack of support for basic hardware on the
TINIs400 and I think I've got a point, don't you?

Mark.





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