Re: SendMail tini 1.11 not working

Clayton,

This is an old problem that Peter and I subsequently resolved over a
week ago (June 17). It odd that it's taken nearly 9 days to reach the
list. If this is a common occurrence then it may go some way to explain
why some contributors to the list feel they are being ignored. I don't
think the delay was from Peter's mailbox since I received a copy of this
email the day it was posted.

Regards

Bob

In message 
<1809DA15308DD51180EE00508BCF21941369B254-P3+25my7MF7q03ifMKgf+EEOCMrvLtNR@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>, Clayton Ware <Clayton.Ware-6tN4nzCoH/hBDgjK7y7TUQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
>    Peter,
>    Have you tried a network sniffer, something like TCPDump,  on the 
>    Win2K box to see if there is any traffic on the network when you 
>    ping from the TINI to the network?  
>     
>     -----Original Message-----
>    From: Peter Bauer 
> [mailto:pbauer-e5u0uhat6N2kJOqCEYON2AC/G2K4zDHf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>    Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:16 PM
>    To: tini-admin-6tN4nzCoH/hBDgjK7y7TUQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>    Cc: tini-6tN4nzCoH/hBDgjK7y7TUQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>    Subject: Re: [TINI] SendMail tini 1.11 not working
>
>>       Hi Bob,
>
>>       Thanks for all the information.  It makes sense and I've applied 
>>       it, but I must still be missing something.
>>       Here's my tini and win2k ipconfig settings:
>
>>       Hostname          : tini00f170.
>>       Current IPv4 addr.: 67.68.24.120/24 (255.255.255.0) 
>>       (active)Current IPv6 addr.: fe80:0:0:0:260:35ff:fe00:f170/64 
>>       (active)
>>       Default IPv4 GW   : 67.68.24.119
>>       Ethernet Address  : 00:60:35:00:f1:70
>>       Primary DNS       : 207.236.176.26
>>       Secondary DNS     : DNS Timeout       : 0 (ms)
>>       DHCP Server       : 
>>       DHCP Enabled      : false
>>       Mailhost          : Restore From 
>>       Flash: Not Committed
>
>
>
>>       Windows 2000 IP Configuration
>>       Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>>       Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : 
>>       IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 67.68.24.119
>>       Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>       Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 67.68.24.119
>
>>       Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>>       Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : 
>>       IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
>>       Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>       Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 
>
>
>>       I'm trying to ping an address which can be pinged from the 
>>       command prompt on the same win2k
>>       computer.  TINI has never been able to ping anything accept the 
>>       win2k computer address, before
>>       I installed the DSL software.  I'm not sure if this is a TINI 
>>       issue or a win2k issue, but I do know
>>       everything is ok, but TINI.  Do you see anything wrong?
>
>>       Thanks,
>
>>       Peter Bauer
>
>
>
>>       Bob Hinton wrote:
>>>          Peter,
>
>>>          So the DSL modem has an RJ45 Ethernet connection and is 
>>>          connected to the
>>>          hub, correct ?
>
>>>          I presume the DSL modem provides you with a connection to the 
>>>          Internet
>>>          via your ISP. If so then it would be usual for the DSL modem 
>>>          to be
>>>          allocated a single IP address via a DHCP server administered 
>>>          via the
>>>          ISP. If you want to share this ONE IP address between two or 
>>>          more
>>>          computers then something has to implement NAT (Network 
>>>          Address
>>>          Translation). 
>
>>>          (see http://computer.howstuffworks.com/nat.htm )
>
>>>          If you don't do this then even if packets could reach the 
>>>          Internet from
>>>          your TINI then there would be no mechanism to route replies 
>>>          back to the
>>>          TINI from the Internet.
>
>>>          If you use the Win2K box as the TINI's gateway then it has to 
>>>          be
>>>          prepared to route the packets to the Internet and handle any 
>>>          replies.
>>>          Since, from the perspective of the Internet, you only have 
>>>          one IP
>>>          address which is already used by the Win2K box the Win2K box 
>>>          has to
>>>          modify the headers of the packets from the TINI to make it 
>>>          appear that
>>>          they have come from this one IP address. It also has to 
>>>          determine which
>>>          of the replies from the Internet should be forwarded to the 
>>>          TINI and re-
>>>          map the packet headers back to the TINI's address.
>
>>>          "Internet connection sharing" on Win2K implements NAT and so 
>>>          will do
>>>          this for you. A prerequisite of using this is that the TINI 
>>>          must use an
>>>          IP address allocated for private use (probably 192.168.1.2 - 
>>>          look at the
>>>          help for Internet Connection Sharing on the Win2K box). 
>>>          Without Internet
>>>          Connection Sharing or similar the TINI will be on a very 
>>>          private network
>>>          that only includes it and the Win2K box.
>
>>>          I hope this helps.
>
>>>          Bob
>
>>>          In message 
>>> <3EEF2764.4030903-e5u0uhat6N2kJOqCEYON2AC/G2K4zDHf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Peter 
>>> Bauer
>>>          <pbauer-e5u0uhat6N2kJOqCEYON2AC/G2K4zDHf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
>>>               Bob Hinton wrote:
>>>>                       Peter,
>>>>>                            Your ipconfig settings don't appear to have 
>>>>>                a value set for 
>>>>>                      "Mailhost".
>>>>>                         I gave up on SendMail until I could ping the 
>>>>             primary DNS.  That 
>>>>                does not work, so no use
>>>>                to waste time typing. 
>
>>>>                       This is required to specify the SMTP server that 
>>>>>                the TINI will 
>>>>>                      use to
>>>>>                      deliver mail, so "sendmail" won't work if it 
>>>>>                isn't set.
>>>>>                        trying for simpler and simplerThat's where I 
>>>>>                started and have been workiing backwards and trying for 
>>>>>                simpler and simpler
>>>>>                         things ... and nothing works.
>
>
>>>>                       Your TINI appears to have the address 
>>>>>                100.100.100.42 with the 
>>>>>                      gateway
>>>>>                      being 100.100.100.12. 
>>>>>                         Yes, I set the addresses - I've been trying 
>>>>             all sorts of thiings 
>>>>                since nothing works.
>
>>>>                       What is 100.100.100.12 ? 
>>>>>                         See chart below
>>>>                       Does you Win2K box have
>>>>>                      two ethernet cards with one connected to the TINI 
>>>>>                via a 
>>>>>                      cross-over cable
>>>>>                      and the other connected to the DSL modem (or 
>>>>>                maybe the DSL modem 
>>>>>                      is
>>>>>                      connected to the Win2K box via USB ?).
>>>>>                         CHART
>>>>                ---------
>>>>                win2k box ( javakit )  ----------> hub 100/10        
>>>>                (100.100.100.12)
>>>>                tini -----------------------------> hub 100            
>>>>                 (100.100.100.42)
>>>>                dsl modem ---------------------> hub
>
>>>>                addresses I can ping on win2k command line cannot be 
>>>>             pinged from 
>>>>                slush.
>
>
>>>>                       If you are using the Win2K box as the TINI's 
>>>>>                interface to the 
>>>>>                      Internet
>>>>>                      then the Win2K box has to forward packets to and 
>>>>>                from the TINI 
>>>>>                      with
>>>>>                      possible header translation. Win2K will do this 
>>>>>                using "Internet
>>>>>                      connection sharing", but if you were using this 
>>>>>                then I would 
>>>>>                      expect the
>>>>>                      TINI to have a private IP address - 10.n.n.n, 
>>>>>                172.16.n.n or 
>>>>>                      192.168.n.n.
>>>>>                         Why would you expect this?  The TINI address 
>>>>             needs to be set by me, 
>>>>                so it is what I have
>>>>                set it to. I don't understand?
>
>>>>                       Since it doesn't you are obviously doing 
>>>>>                something a bit 
>>>>>                      different.
>>>>>                      Could you please explain a bit more about your 
>>>>>                configuration ?
>>>>>                         I did not have connection sharing on, so that 
>>>>             was hoping that would 
>>>>                do it.  I tried it and no changes.
>
>>>>                       Please note that a lot of Internet addresses 
>>>>>                will not respond to 
>>>>>                      'ping'
>>>>>                      so just because ping doesn't work doesn't for a 
>>>>>                particular 
>>>>>                      address
>>>>>                      doesn't mean that there isn't a connection.
>>>>>                        (win2k), first.Yes, I make sure that I can ping 
>>>>>                from the command prompt (win2k), first.
>>>>>                         Thanks Bob
>
>
>>>>                       Bob
>>>>>                            In message 
>>>>>                
>>>>> <3EEE9707.1030402-e5u0uhat6N2kJOqCEYON2AC/G2K4zDHf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 
>>>>> Peter Bauer
>>>>>                      
>>>>> <pbauer-e5u0uhat6N2kJOqCEYON2AC/G2K4zDHf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
>>>>>                        I cannot ping anything other than the win2k 
>>>>>                computer I'm 
>>>>>                               running javakit 
>>>>>>                            on (both ways).  Have a dsl
>>>>>>                            modem connected to same .. can use and ping 
>>>>>>                   from win2k, not 
>>>>>>                            tini.  Here 
>>>>>>                            are the settings (cut and paste
>>>>>>                                >from javakit - so it's a mess) I'm 
>>>>>>                   using.
>>>>>>                                   Version 1.11 of TINI
>>>>>                               JavaKit messes up when backspacing. Mode 
>>>>>>                   other than dumb 
>>>>>>                            terminal is 
>>>>>>                            seriously messed up.
>>>>>>                                    Need to send e-mail via serial 
>>>>>>                   port/modem ... can't even get 
>>>>>>                            sendmail to 
>>>>>>                            work (or ping).
>>>>>>                                    Settings
>>>>>>                            ======
>>>>>>                            TINI /> ipconfigHostname          : 
>>>>>>                            tini00f170.tini.comCurrent IPv4 
>>>>>>                            addr.: 100.100.100.42/24 (255.255.255.0) 
>>>>>>                   (active)Current IPv6 
>>>>>>                            addr.: 
>>>>>>                            fe80:0:0:0:260:35ff:fe00:f170/64 
>>>>>>                   (active)Default IPv4 GW   : 
>>>>>>                            100.100.100.12Ethernet Address  : 
>>>>>>                   00:60:35:00:f1:70Primary 
>>>>>>                            DNS       : 
>>>>>>                            207.236.176.26Secondary DNS     : DNS 
>>>>>>                   Timeout       : 0 
>>>>>>                            (ms)DHCP 
>>>>>>                            Server       : DHCP Enabled      : 
>>>>>>                   falseMailhost          : 
>>>>>>                            Restore From 
>>>>>>                            Flash: Not CommittedTINI /> ping 
>>>>>>                   206.47.72.104Node 
>>>>>>                            206.47.72.104/206.47.72.104 was 
>>>>>>                   unreachableSent 1 request(s), 
>>>>>>                            got 0 reply(s)
>>>>>>                                        Anyone using this version of 
>>>>>>                   TINI and able to 
>>>>>>                            sendmail/ping???
>>>>>>                                    Thanks,
>>>>>>                                    Peter Bauer
>>>>>>                                        
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>
>
>>>            


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