Tynamo - CDC

Forwarded on behalf of jammsw <jammsw-pCzzcW6XgXY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

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Hello Shawn,

I noticed that the release for the EJC is 0.14, is it still in beta or
already stable? How does it relate to the TINI and SNAP versions?

Thanks,

Jose,
Best regards.


 >
 >
 >Hello.  I was wondering if you'd like to try out Tynamo for the EJC.  I've
 >released a version for CDC that runs on this platform.  The address is
 >http://tynamo.qindesign.com/
 >
 >
 >I also find the EJC a "refreshing" difference in the embedded platforms.
 >It's pretty complete.
 >
 >
 >Thanks,
 >        -Shawn
 >
 >
 >On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, jammsw wrote:
 >
 >
 >>
 >> Hello all,
 >>
 >> I have to agree with Bruce. Dallas has really done a good job squeezing
 >> all that functionality into what essentially is an enhanced 8051. They
 >> are also doing a good job with support by keeping things so open.
 >>
 >> The TINI platform has some very interesting possibilities for commercial
 >> applications and some strong points, starting with a very attractive
 >> price and a wide user community willing to help. However it isn't without
 >> limitations in terms of performance, functionality, or robustness. As
 >> Bruce pointed out, TINI is very good for certain applications, but that
 >> doesn't necessarily mean it is good for _every_ application.
 >>
 >> You have to be aware issues could 'pop up' once in a while and you cannot
 >> expect overnight bug fixes and you should even anticipate that certain
 >> legitimate requests cannot be implemented.
 >>
 >> If you are working on a serious project, you should have done an in-depth
 >> analysis of the pros and cons of TINI, and evaluated its risks. If you
 >> need performance, or more functionality, or anything else that TINI does
 >> not provide, then you should be looking elsewhere; there are several other
 >> embedded Java platforms out there.
 >>
 >> I have been using TINI myself for some projects, but for others I found
 >> it to be too restrictive or limited and started looking for alternatives.
 >> I have evaluated JStamp and SNAP, among others, and finally ended up
 >> selecting Snijder Micro System's EJC. This platform is not restricted in
 >> terms of JVM or memory and has really good performance and a lot of
 >> functionality built-in. Of course it is quite a bit more expensive too
 >> -- but you get what you pay for!
 >>
 >> Jose,
 >> Best regards.
 >>
 >> [...]
 >>
 >>  >>Don't you understand till now ?
 >>  >>TINI is really small product, which shouldn't be used in commercial or
 >>  >>realtime or enough big projects. Where you can use TINI -- is just
 >>  >>some lab works with students.
 >>  >
 >>  >This is simply not true, IMHO. We have OEM customers using TINI now in
 >>  >commercial applications.
 >>  >
 >>  >There is also a lot of interest in TStik for volume OEM 
applications, and
 >>  >this is why we have addressed some of the limits of TINI390 hardware,
with
 >>  >the new TINI400 TStik hardware. Netboot and other features of TStik will
 >>  >help make it more usable and maintainable when installed in remote
 >>  >locations. So we think that TINI, especially TINI400/TStik will be a
great
 >>  >product with a lot of commercial applications.
 >>  >
 >>  >>TINI API implementation have enough problems. And, unfortunately guys
 >>  >>from @dalsemi.com don't do anything in direction to get old errors
 >>  >
 >>  >If you compare Dallas open attitude about tech support and bugs to other
 >>  >companies I think you will find that Dallas is far better. For
example, it
 >>  >is the policy of Keil to *not* publish any bug or errata lists!! We
wasted
 >>  >many days on a project only to discover it was well-known (to Keil)
bugs in
 >>  >their math library and linker (which they admitted when we presented
 >>  >evidence). Keil however refused to provide a list of all known bugs. We
 >>  >were incredulous. And we paid $1500 for the Keil 8051 product! Dallas on
 >>  >the other hand is very open about bug reports and fixing or working
around

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