Re: SendMail tini 1.11 not working

Hi Bob,

Thanks for all the information.  It makes sense and I've applied it, but
I must still be missing something.
Here's my tini and win2k ipconfig settings:

Hostname          : tini00f170.
Current IPv4 addr.: 67.68.24.120/24 (255.255.255.0) (active)Current IPv6
addr.: fe80:0:0:0:260:35ff:fe00:f170/64 (active)
Default IPv4 GW   : 67.68.24.119
Ethernet Address  : 00:60:35:00:f1:70
Primary DNS       : 207.236.176.26
Secondary DNS     : DNS Timeout       : 0 (ms)
DHCP Server       : 
DHCP Enabled      : false
Mailhost          : Restore From 
Flash: Not Committed



Windows 2000 IP Configuration
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : 
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 67.68.24.119
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 67.68.24.119

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : 
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 


I'm trying to ping an address which can be pinged from the command prompt
on the same win2k
computer.  TINI has never been able to ping anything accept the win2k computer
address, before
I installed the DSL software.  I'm not sure if this is a TINI issue or a
win2k issue, but I do know
everything is ok, but TINI.  Do you see anything wrong?

Thanks,

Peter Bauer



Bob Hinton wrote:
> Peter,
>
> So the DSL modem has an RJ45 Ethernet connection and is connected to the
> hub, correct ?
>
> I presume the DSL modem provides you with a connection to the Internet
> via your ISP. If so then it would be usual for the DSL modem to be
> allocated a single IP address via a DHCP server administered via the
> ISP. If you want to share this ONE IP address between two or more
> computers then something has to implement NAT (Network Address
> Translation). 
>
> (see http://computer.howstuffworks.com/nat.htm )
>
> If you don't do this then even if packets could reach the Internet from
> your TINI then there would be no mechanism to route replies back to the
> TINI from the Internet.
>
> If you use the Win2K box as the TINI's gateway then it has to be
> prepared to route the packets to the Internet and handle any replies.
> Since, from the perspective of the Internet, you only have one IP
> address which is already used by the Win2K box the Win2K box has to
> modify the headers of the packets from the TINI to make it appear that
> they have come from this one IP address. It also has to determine which
> of the replies from the Internet should be forwarded to the TINI and re-
> map the packet headers back to the TINI's address.
>
> "Internet connection sharing" on Win2K implements NAT and so will do
> this for you. A prerequisite of using this is that the TINI must use an
> IP address allocated for private use (probably 192.168.1.2 - look at the
> help for Internet Connection Sharing on the Win2K box). Without Internet
> Connection Sharing or similar the TINI will be on a very private network
> that only includes it and the Win2K box.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Bob
>
> In message <3EEF2764.4030903@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Peter Bauer
> <pbauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
> >    Bob Hinton wrote:
> > >       Peter,
> > >     
> > >       Your ipconfig settings don't appear to have a value set for 
> > >       "Mailhost".
> > >     
> >    I gave up on SendMail until I could ping the primary DNS.  That 
> >    does not work, so no use
> >    to waste time typing. 
> >
> > >       This is required to specify the SMTP server that the TINI will 
> > >       use to
> > >       deliver mail, so "sendmail" won't work if it isn't set.
> > >         trying for simpler and simplerThat's where I started and have been workiing backwards and trying for simpler and simpler
> > >     
> >    things ... and nothing works.
> >
> >
> > >       Your TINI appears to have the address 100.100.100.42 with the 
> > >       gateway
> > >       being 100.100.100.12. 
> > >     
> >    Yes, I set the addresses - I've been trying all sorts of thiings 
> >    since nothing works.
> >
> > >       What is 100.100.100.12 ? 
> > >     
> >    See chart below
> > >       Does you Win2K box have
> > >       two ethernet cards with one connected to the TINI via a 
> > >       cross-over cable
> > >       and the other connected to the DSL modem (or maybe the DSL modem 
> > >       is
> > >       connected to the Win2K box via USB ?).
> > >     
> >    CHART
> >    ---------
> >    win2k box ( javakit )  ----------> hub 100/10        
> >    (100.100.100.12)
> >    tini -----------------------------> hub 100            
> >     (100.100.100.42)
> >    dsl modem ---------------------> hub
> >
> >    addresses I can ping on win2k command line cannot be pinged from 
> >    slush.
> >
> >
> > >       If you are using the Win2K box as the TINI's interface to the 
> > >       Internet
> > >       then the Win2K box has to forward packets to and from the TINI 
> > >       with
> > >       possible header translation. Win2K will do this using "Internet
> > >       connection sharing", but if you were using this then I would 
> > >       expect the
> > >       TINI to have a private IP address - 10.n.n.n, 172.16.n.n or 
> > >       192.168.n.n.
> > >     
> >    Why would you expect this?  The TINI address needs to be set by me, 
> >    so it is what I have
> >    set it to. I don't understand?
> >
> > >       Since it doesn't you are obviously doing something a bit 
> > >       different.
> > >       Could you please explain a bit more about your configuration ?
> > >     
> >    I did not have connection sharing on, so that was hoping that would 
> >    do it.  I tried it and no changes.
> >
> > >       Please note that a lot of Internet addresses will not respond to 
> > >       'ping'
> > >       so just because ping doesn't work doesn't for a particular 
> > >       address
> > >       doesn't mean that there isn't a connection.
> > >         (win2k), first.Yes, I make sure that I can ping from the command prompt (win2k), first.
> > >     
> >    Thanks Bob
> >
> >
> > >       Bob
> > >     
> > >       In message <3EEE9707.1030402@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Peter Bauer
> > >       <pbauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
> > >         I cannot ping anything other than the win2k computer I'm 
> > > >          running javakit 
> > > >          on (both ways).  Have a dsl
> > > >          modem connected to same .. can use and ping from win2k, not 
> > > >          tini.  Here 
> > > >          are the settings (cut and paste
> > > >              >from javakit - so it's a mess) I'm using.
> > > >       
> > >         Version 1.11 of TINI
> > >     
> > > >          JavaKit messes up when backspacing. Mode other than dumb 
> > > >          terminal is 
> > > >          seriously messed up.
> > > >       
> > >     
> > > >          Need to send e-mail via serial port/modem ... can't even get 
> > > >          sendmail to 
> > > >          work (or ping).
> > > >       
> > >     
> > > >          Settings
> > > >          ======
> > > >          TINI /> ipconfigHostname          : 
> > > >          tini00f170.tini.comCurrent IPv4 
> > > >          addr.: 100.100.100.42/24 (255.255.255.0) (active)Current IPv6 
> > > >          addr.: 
> > > >          fe80:0:0:0:260:35ff:fe00:f170/64 (active)Default IPv4 GW   : 
> > > >          100.100.100.12Ethernet Address  : 00:60:35:00:f1:70Primary 
> > > >          DNS       : 
> > > >          207.236.176.26Secondary DNS     : DNS Timeout       : 0 
> > > >          (ms)DHCP 
> > > >          Server       : DHCP Enabled      : falseMailhost          : 
> > > >          Restore From 
> > > >          Flash: Not CommittedTINI /> ping 206.47.72.104Node 
> > > >          206.47.72.104/206.47.72.104 was unreachableSent 1 request(s), 
> > > >          got 0 reply(s)
> > > >       
> > >     
> > > >          Anyone using this version of TINI and able to 
> > > >          sendmail/ping???
> > > >       
> > >     
> > > >          Thanks,
> > > >       
> > >     
> > > >          Peter Bauer
> > > >       
> > >     
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