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Subject: Re: Nautilus documentation update - msg#00095
List: gnome.documentation
On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 16:55 +0000, Joachim Noreiko wrote:
> --- karderio <karderio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I noticed .../gnome-user-docs/gnome-users-guide is
> > the 1.4
> > documentation, is that because GNOME 1 is still
> > maintained in CVS ?
>
> There's a lot of weird stuff in CVS.
> One time I forgot where the user docs were, so I went
> looking through different modules.
> I left some notes here:
> http://live.gnome.org/DocumentationProject/CvsModules
> In particular,
> /gnome-user-docs/introduction-to-gnome/ looks like
> another attempt at a gnome user guide. What is its
> status? Is it used by anything? Can we use useful
> content from there for the user guide?
Introduction to Gnome was an additional document
we shipped in the earlier days of Gnome 2. Most
of its information was redundant with the User
Guide. That's not a bad thing, mind you. Having
a redundant tutorial-style document can complement
topic-oriented guides.
But it hadn't been maintained in a while, so we
decided to drop it so we could focus our dwindling
efforts on the more essential documents.
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Shaun
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Re: Nautilus documentation update
On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 17:44 +0100, karderio wrote:
> > I know from Shaun that part1.xml and part2.xml are
> > officially deprecated, but I don't know what the
> > status of the others is.
>
> How does something get "officially deprecated" ? I noticed that several
> screenshots are no longer useful...
In this case, I simply removed the parts from the User
Guide and made all the chapters top-level. These two
files aren't even installed anymore, and should just
be removed from CVS.
> I noticed .../gnome-user-docs/gnome-users-guide is the 1.4
> documentation, is that because GNOME 1 is still maintained in CVS ?
The intention was that they would be two separate
documents, so that you could have both Gnome 1 and
Gnome 2 installed in parallel. I doubt many people
are even trying to do that these days.
Given that we can't even manage to maintain our
current documentation, there's really little hope
that Gnome 1 documentation would ever be maintained.
It's not installed or put in the tarball, so it's
just a relic in CVS.
--
Shaun
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Re: Mapping GNOME contributors from around the world!
Hey Simos,
I couldn't add Tehran as a city...
can it be fixed?
Cheers.
On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 14:46 +0000, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
> Ross Golder wrote:
>
> >On àà., 2005-12-18 at 11:28 +0700, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On 12/17/05, Luis Villa <luis.villa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>You mean, like:
> >>>http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWorldWide
> >>>
> >>>? (linked to from planet.gnome.org)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Isn't that for people who feed Planet GNOME?
> >>Sorry if I'm wrong. But that's my impression when seeing it there.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >It's anyone who adds their co-ordinates to the list further down on that
> >same wiki page.
> >
> >
> A few points on GNOMEDev (http://www.frappr.com/gnomedev),
> a. It allows the contributor to immediatelly add themselves to the list,
> b. They can reposition themselves on the map easily as well. If you go
> on a trip (Guadec?),
> you can update your position while you are there.
> c. No need to find coordinates; you can set the city location, then
> fine-tune to the exact point on the map.
> d. You can zoom in/out on the map.
> e. Corollary: You can view individual contributors on congested parts
> of the map. For example,
> Europe looks congested now; zoom in and you see each individual user.
> f. You can add a thumbnail photo, full size photo as well as related photos.
> g. You can add shout-outs. Consider it as a mini-p.g.o. with easy access.
>
> I am not affiliated with the frappr service in any way.
>
> I feel that for marketing purposes (marketing-list AT gnome.org), it is
> important
> to
> 1. get end-users (as opposed to GNOMEDev) added to a similar map as well.
> Hmm, see
> http://www.frappr.com/gnomeusers
> replicating the effect of http://www.frappr.com/firefoxusers
> 2. make an effort to publicise GNOMEDev a bit more.
>
> Simos
>
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Re: Nautilus documentation update
--- karderio <karderio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Is the wiki to replace user-guide.xml ?
> >
> > Not really. It's there so people who aren't
> > comfortable with editing XML can contribute.
>
> So it's contents will be distributed throughout the
> XML documents
> in .../gnome-user-docs/gnome2-user-guide ?
I'm currently taking Daniel's edits to the 'Windows'
section of the wiki and putting them into XML.
It looks like someone's made some edits to the
Nautilus sections too. Those will need to be looked at
and the new content merged in with the XML.
> Thanks, I had noticed some documents were not used,
> but I was not sure
> why.
neither am I!
> How does something get "officially deprecated" ? I
> noticed that several
> screenshots are no longer useful...
In this case, what I mean is that Shaun said to me in
IRC: 'Yeah, I need to delete those' or something like
that :)
> I noticed .../gnome-user-docs/gnome-users-guide is
> the 1.4
> documentation, is that because GNOME 1 is still
> maintained in CVS ?
There's a lot of weird stuff in CVS.
One time I forgot where the user docs were, so I went
looking through different modules.
I left some notes here:
http://live.gnome.org/DocumentationProject/CvsModules
In particular,
/gnome-user-docs/introduction-to-gnome/ looks like
another attempt at a gnome user guide. What is its
status? Is it used by anything? Can we use useful
content from there for the user guide?
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Re: Nautilus documentation update
On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 17:44 +0100, karderio wrote:
> > I know from Shaun that part1.xml and part2.xml are
> > officially deprecated, but I don't know what the
> > status of the others is.
>
> How does something get "officially deprecated" ? I noticed that several
> screenshots are no longer useful...
In this case, I simply removed the parts from the User
Guide and made all the chapters top-level. These two
files aren't even installed anymore, and should just
be removed from CVS.
> I noticed .../gnome-user-docs/gnome-users-guide is the 1.4
> documentation, is that because GNOME 1 is still maintained in CVS ?
The intention was that they would be two separate
documents, so that you could have both Gnome 1 and
Gnome 2 installed in parallel. I doubt many people
are even trying to do that these days.
Given that we can't even manage to maintain our
current documentation, there's really little hope
that Gnome 1 documentation would ever be maintained.
It's not installed or put in the tarball, so it's
just a relic in CVS.
--
Shaun
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