On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 10:30:14AM +0100, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
> Hi,
Jose,
Thanks a lot for your reply. As you observed, I'm not exactly a Java expert, so
it was exactly what I was looking for.
> I'm not sure this is the right way to go... The standard way to deploy
> a J2EE application (wether web or more than web, this is containing
> EJBs and other stuff) is using an enterprise application archive. This
> is basically a jar file with .ear extension and with its content
> arranged in a specified way. In the case of pure web applications
> (only servlets/JSPs) you may use directly a web archive, this is a jar
> file with .war extension and again with its contents arranged in a
> specified way. Some containers provide support for deploying an
> exploded (unzipped, unjarred, whatever you call it) application, but I
> think this is not dictated by the standard, so you can't count on
> this. Once you deploy the application, it's up to the server to do
> whatever it wants to run the application: it could unzip (unjar) the
> application to a working directory, or maybe just work from the
> provided file, as long as it publishes the web application as the
> standard dictates.
Makes sense. I was under the impression (perhaps mistakenly) that we could
simply unjar those files and copy them over. Your explanation is much
appreciated.
> Moreover, I'm not sure you could create virtual hosting based only on
> J2EE servers, as I don't remember this to be included in the J2EE
> standard, and again you can't count on it. I think the best way to do
> this would be to provide virtual hosting using Apache and then use
> some connector to forward requests to the corresponding J2EE server.
> As far as I know this can be done with Tomcat, Jetty and JBoss fro
> your list.
Noted.
> JBoss is thought as a microkernel to which you add containers and
> services as needed. In this case, each container (web, EJB) or service
> can be added or removed to create an instance of the server that suits
> your needs. JBoss comes with three configurations out of the box, one
> with all availables services activated, one as the default
> configuration used for most of the J2EE applications and one with a
> minimal set of services activated. Each of them has its own directory
> where all the necessary files for that configuration live.
Thanks.
> I think the best bet would be to explore the API for J2EE application
> deployment (JSR 88) ([2]http://java.sun.com/j2ee/tools/deployment/,
> [3]http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=88&showPrint). This API intends
> to provide a common contract every J2EE application server should
> comply with, so you could create a generic deploy tool that would be
> independent from the server you would be deploying to.
> A quick googling of JSR 88 reports this link as something to take into
> account: [4]http://cargo.codehaus.org/. This tool is being actively
> developed by the Maven guys, and I'm pretty sure that could be used to
> deploy web and J2EE applications to any supported server.
Thanks for the links, I'll go do my research.
> A final note: don't know if you know the difference between a java web
> application an a full blown J2EE application... reading your mail I
> get the feeling that you think that J2EE is similar in complexity to a
> PHP web application, and this isn't the case. Just in case, from the
> four servers you mention, three of them are just web containers, this
> is, they only support a small part of the full J2EE stack. Only JBoss
> is a full J2EE server. I think you should add to that list a few other
> servers that are full J2EE stacks, and quite popular, like Geronimo
> (from Apache, [5]http://geronimo.apache.org/)
Noted. The reason I excluded Geronimo was because it's currently not in Portage.
> HTH, best regards
> Jose
Thanks again for a very informative email.
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Renat Lumpau
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