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Re: Keeping a test environment using catalyst: msg#00019

Subject: Re: Keeping a test environment using catalyst
%% Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

  >> I quite understand your position: you are using ostensibly stable
  >> Gentoo packages and your work is focused on making sure Catalyst
  >> works.  I'm using unstable/development packages and assuming that
  >> Catalyst is stable.

  cg> Catalyst is anything but stable.  It works quite well for building
  cg> a *Gentoo* release, but is not well suited for other things (yet)
  cg> simply due to that being the only focus of catalyst until
  cg> recently.

:-)  Yes, understood.

  >> My current project is understanding where the kernel boot parameters
  >> come from (my bootline has "nodhcp" which I don't want).  My other
  >> problem is that the hardware detection stuff is running too late in the
  >> "default" boot process; it brings up eth0, then sshd, then apache,
  >> _THEN_ runs the hardware detection.  So, I can't quite figure out how it
  >> brings up eth0 without detecting the hardware... maybe it runs twice?

  cg> All of the boot parameters come from the archscript.

I found this now.

  cg> Normally, autoconfig is started first due to it being first
  cg> alphabetically.

Oops.  That's not terribly robust :-).  I'm adding "apache2" and that
comes before "autoconfig".  Not sure why SSH is starting earlier, but
apache2 depends on "net" and presumably (although there isn't a "net"
runscript) that somehow translates into net.eth0 etc.

  cg> The "hwsetup" portion you see on the Gentoo releases is done by
  cg> autoconfig, and runs before coldplug.

Hm.  In my version of autoconfig this seems to be commented out:

  depend() {
          need modules
          use alsasound
  #       provide gpm pcmcia apmd acpid coldplug
  }

Maybe that's my problem?  I'm getting this from livecd-tools-1.0.20.

I don't see anything depending on coldplug either.

It sure would be nice if the rc scripts tools had some debugging
capabilities, like a "don't do it" mode that just printed what would be
run for a given runlevel or init script, and why.  It would make this
stuff a lot simpler...

It seems like basic things like "net" should depend on coldplug and/or
autoconfig.

  cg> Just curious, but what arch are you building?  x86?  amd64?  ppc?

x86

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