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On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 11:43, at3jazh1 wrote:
> My question is how can I move the ascent line to above the ring without
> modifing the character itself?
The ascent line is not very meaningful. It is something internal to
fontforge and is only exported in a form (OS/2 TypographicAscent) which
is almost totally ignored -- and it's only the default value for
TypoAscent, you can change that.

So my first advice is not to worry about it.
>
> I tried to use Element->font info->general->ascent feature.
That's how you do it, yes.
> It's better but still not good enough.
Then change it by enough, that's your choice.
> I still have a small portion of ring above the ascent
> line. And also the descent part of the other character will be below the
> descent line.
Then change that too. There is no requirement that the emsize be 1000.
>
> I also tried to rebuild the accent from menu Element ->build. It will move
> the ring down. It is not want I wanted either.
I'm not sure what your complaint is here. Where the accent is placed is
a matter of taste dependent on your font. If you don't like what
fontforge does by default then you can change it with
File->Preferences->Accents
>
> How can I have all the characters located between ascent line and descent
> line?
By designing them so they fit?
Why does this matter to you?


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Re: Ascent Line for Aring

at3jazh1 wrote: > I have problem with ascent line with à and other ascent letters. > The ascent line above the baseline cross the ring horizontally. It should be > above the ring. When I created the BDF bitmap file, some pixel is above the > ascent line. > Keep in mind that this is a problem with the particular font you are looking at and the particular choices the font-designer made, to allow that character to rise above the top-line. It has nothing to do with all fonts in general or that character in particular. > My question is how can I move the ascent line to above the ring without > modifing the character itself? > > I tried to use Element->font info->general->ascent feature. It's better but > still not good enough. I still have a small portion of ring above the ascent > line. And also the descent part of the other character will be below the > descent line. > Use element->font info->general and change the ascent feature, *but* make sure the "scale outlines" box is not checked. If you raise that value higher, the ascent line goes up... You can make it arbitrarily high if you like, but remember that this essentially makes *all* the characters take up that much more vertical whitespace. ~mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ _______________________________________________ Fontforge-users mailing list Fontforge-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users

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Thank you, George. I got this ttf font file from someone else. They might use other tool to create the font file. That's why I have to change the ascent line. Anyway I followed Mark's direction, that fixed my problem. Thank you, Mark! George Williams wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 11:43, at3jazh1 wrote: >> My question is how can I move the ascent line to above the ring without >> modifing the character itself? > The ascent line is not very meaningful. It is something internal to > fontforge and is only exported in a form (OS/2 TypographicAscent) which > is almost totally ignored -- and it's only the default value for > TypoAscent, you can change that. > > So my first advice is not to worry about it. >> >> I tried to use Element->font info->general->ascent feature. > That's how you do it, yes. >> It's better but still not good enough. > Then change it by enough, that's your choice. >> I still have a small portion of ring above the ascent >> line. And also the descent part of the other character will be below the >> descent line. > Then change that too. There is no requirement that the emsize be 1000. >> >> I also tried to rebuild the accent from menu Element ->build. It will >> move >> the ring down. It is not want I wanted either. > I'm not sure what your complaint is here. Where the accent is placed is > a matter of taste dependent on your font. If you don't like what > fontforge does by default then you can change it with > File->Preferences->Accents >> >> How can I have all the characters located between ascent line and descent >> line? > By designing them so they fit? > Why does this matter to you? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Fontforge-users mailing list > Fontforge-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Ascent-Line-for-Aring-tf4714155.html#a13494667 Sent from the Fontforge - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/

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Re: Ascent Line for Aring

at3jazh1 wrote: > I have problem with ascent line with à and other ascent letters. > The ascent line above the baseline cross the ring horizontally. It should be > above the ring. When I created the BDF bitmap file, some pixel is above the > ascent line. > Keep in mind that this is a problem with the particular font you are looking at and the particular choices the font-designer made, to allow that character to rise above the top-line. It has nothing to do with all fonts in general or that character in particular. > My question is how can I move the ascent line to above the ring without > modifing the character itself? > > I tried to use Element->font info->general->ascent feature. It's better but > still not good enough. I still have a small portion of ring above the ascent > line. And also the descent part of the other character will be below the > descent line. > Use element->font info->general and change the ascent feature, *but* make sure the "scale outlines" box is not checked. If you raise that value higher, the ascent line goes up... You can make it arbitrarily high if you like, but remember that this essentially makes *all* the characters take up that much more vertical whitespace. ~mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ _______________________________________________ Fontforge-users mailing list Fontforge-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users

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Re: Ascent Line for Aring

Thank you, George. I got this ttf font file from someone else. They might use other tool to create the font file. That's why I have to change the ascent line. Anyway I followed Mark's direction, that fixed my problem. Thank you, Mark! George Williams wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 11:43, at3jazh1 wrote: >> My question is how can I move the ascent line to above the ring without >> modifing the character itself? > The ascent line is not very meaningful. It is something internal to > fontforge and is only exported in a form (OS/2 TypographicAscent) which > is almost totally ignored -- and it's only the default value for > TypoAscent, you can change that. > > So my first advice is not to worry about it. >> >> I tried to use Element->font info->general->ascent feature. > That's how you do it, yes. >> It's better but still not good enough. > Then change it by enough, that's your choice. >> I still have a small portion of ring above the ascent >> line. And also the descent part of the other character will be below the >> descent line. > Then change that too. There is no requirement that the emsize be 1000. >> >> I also tried to rebuild the accent from menu Element ->build. It will >> move >> the ring down. It is not want I wanted either. > I'm not sure what your complaint is here. Where the accent is placed is > a matter of taste dependent on your font. If you don't like what > fontforge does by default then you can change it with > File->Preferences->Accents >> >> How can I have all the characters located between ascent line and descent >> line? > By designing them so they fit? > Why does this matter to you? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Fontforge-users mailing list > Fontforge-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fontforge-users > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Ascent-Line-for-Aring-tf4714155.html#a13494667 Sent from the Fontforge - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/
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