Subject: Re: shell is gone? - msg#00290

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

On Sat, 2011-05-07 at 20:27 +0000, Beartooth wrote: > On Fri, 06 May 2011 12:25:34 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 18:21 +0000, BeartoothHOS wrote: > [....] > >> Even if I had the time, it would take me months or years of study > >> to become able to follow at that level, alas! But I'm glad to do what I > >> can without that. > > > > It really shouldn't - the workflow is as simple as: download the test > > image, click on a test case link on the matrix, > > Test image? matrix?? You've lost me. The image is linked right at the top of the page: "Download the ISO images for testing: please use either the DVD installer image, or the nightly live image for the desktop you wish to test. Testing for all four major desktop environments is required for each test point. Delta_ISOs for installer images are also available here. " That sentence includes links. 'Matrix' just refers to the table with results in it. That section of the page is titled "Test Matrix" in big, bold letters. > > follow the instructions > > in the test case (they're really easy), > > No doubt, if you're familiar with the words and their meanings. The test cases are written as simply as we could make them. Most of them ought to be understandable by anyone who can actually install and run Fedora. > > and then add in your result > > based on the outcome of the test. It's not meant to be difficult or > > complicated or need extra study at all. > > I didn't intend to imply it was *meant* to be; but, alas!, so it > is in fact to those without background. Very similarly, those fluent in a > given language usually imagine it utterly easy -- until they try to teach > it to others unfamiliar with it. We do take this into consideration and try to be quite careful to make the process entirely self-documented. It would help if you'd be more specific about where you got stuck trying to simply follow the instructions on the wiki page. > Or to take a third case, I could give you a lecture off the top > of my head, effortlessly, on the history and theory of the Germanic > languages and literatures, which (unless you're already knowledgeable or > I pitched it appropriately (knowing how by long practice)) you'd find > bewildering. Otoh, that double parenthesis I just committed probably > won't've bothered you nearly so much as it would have an English major. I don't think there's anything intrinsically wrong with nested parentheses. Neither does any C coder...=) > In all cases, the adept have learned so much, for so long, that > they disremember the effort it once took (in early childhood, in the case > of a mother tongue). > > > Here's a practical example... > > > > Okay, we have our F15 TC1 Desktop live image, let's go to > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test . Look > > at the matrix, and click on the first test case - that's > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_browser . > > desktop browser?? It's a link. Click on it. 'Desktop' is the type of test case it is (it's one of the set of desktop tests). 'Browser' is a description of this test case itself - it's a web browser test. But why not just click on it, and see? It lists six simple things you can do to check that a web browser is pretty much working. I really struggle to see how anyone who can drive Fedora couldn't complete that test. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

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Re: GNOME Shell frippery for grumpy old stick-in-the-muds Fedora 15 64Bit

On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 07:21 -0700, Leslie S Satenstein wrote: > I see that you were able to activate System Tools. This menu entry > does not appear in the fallback mode. It does appear in alacarte > (Menu editor), along with a preferences menu. But there are many items > in the preferences menu that are not available in Fallback mode. In > particular, I did not find gnome screensaver preferences. Does your > patch fix this problem? Anything that's part of GNOME Control Center does not appear in the menus, by design; you can launch the control center (System Settings) from the user menu (your name, at top right). In Shell you can find bits of the control center from the overview search box too, but obviously that doesn't exist in fallback mode. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

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Re: shell is gone?

Dne 10.5.2011 20:04, cornel panceac napsal(a): > hm? i'm confused! if mutter performs better, why hardware has to be > blacklisted? is there (again) a lack of manpower hitting here? Could be. Probably mostly lack of manpower to maintain the blacklist, keep it tested, and work over each individual chip (and its variants) and its bugs. MatÄj -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

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F-15 Branched report: 20110507 changes

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requires libgps.so.18 sear-0.6.3-14.fc12.i686 requires liberis-1.3.so.15 sunbird-1.0-0.33.b2pre.fc15.i686 requires libnotify.so.1 uim-gnome-1.6.1-1.fc15.i686 requires libpanel-applet-2.so.0 xfce4-globalmenu-plugin-0.7.9-1.fc15.i686 requires libxfce4panel.so.1 xiphos-3.1.4-3.fc15.i686 requires libgtkhtml-editor-3.14.so.0 xiphos-3.1.4-3.fc15.i686 requires libgtkhtml-3.15.so.19 Summary: Added Packages: 0 Removed Packages: 0 Modified Packages: 0 -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel