encryption.general (thread)

Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC NOT, Steven M. Bellovin
(Fwd) IPsec interoperability testing event, Stefan Kelm
Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC, Bill Stewart
- Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC, Thor Lancelot Simon
- Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC, Steven M. Bellovin
  - Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably doesn't kill DNSSEC, Bill Sommerfeld
    - Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS (Updated news), Sidney Markowitz
  - Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC, Bill Stewart
    - Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC, Simon Josefsson
    - Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC, Bill Stewart
    - Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC NOT, Simon Josefsson
    - Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC NOT, bear
    - Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC NOT, Kevin Neely
- Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC, Steven M. Bellovin
  - Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC, William Allen Simpson
Apple DRM Revisited, R. A. Hettinga
- google crypto?, Don Davis
Feedback from the LibTomMath Book?, tom st denis
- Re: Feedback from the LibTomMath Book?, tom st denis
New NTRUEncrypt Parameters, Whyte, William
Re: pubkeys for p and g, Peter Fairbrother
- Re: pubkeys for p and g, Nomen Nescio
  - Re: pubkeys for p and g, martin f krafft
[CYBERIA] H&R Block sued over "electronic transaction" method patent, R. A. Hettinga
[johnmacsgroup] INTEL: Venona Project, R. A. Hettinga
DH: pubkeys for p and g, martin f krafft
- Re: pubkeys for p and g, Anton Stiglic
  - Re: pubkeys for p and g, martin f krafft
    - Re: pubkeys for p and g, Peter Fairbrother
    - Re: pubkeys for p and g, martin f krafft
Draft Edition of LibTomMath book, tom st denis
- Re: Draft Edition of LibTomMath book, bear
  - Re: Draft Edition of LibTomMath book, tom st denis
- re: Draft Edition of LibTomMath book, tom st denis
- Re: Draft Edition of LibTomMath book, Peter Gutmann
  - Terminator 2 Extreme DRM, Jon Simon
  - Re: Draft Edition of LibTomMath book, Werner Koch
    - Re: Draft Edition of LibTomMath book, Marcel de Riedmatten
- Re: Draft Edition of LibTomMath book, Peter Gutmann
Re: New toy: SSLbar, Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: New toy: SSLbar, Pete Chown
  - Re: New toy: SSLbar, Stefan Kelm
  - Re: New toy: SSLbar, Andy Isaacson
- Re: New toy: SSLbar, Ian Grigg
- Re: New toy: SSLbar, Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: New toy: SSLbar, Mister Lee
Mozilla tool to self-verify HTTPS site, Ian Grigg
- Re: Mozilla tool to self-verify HTTPS site, Victor . Duchovni
  - Re: Mozilla tool to self-verify HTTPS site, Ian Grigg
  - Re: Mozilla tool to self-verify HTTPS site, Ian Grigg
DIMACS Tutorial on Applied Cryptography and Network Security: NJ, Aug 4-7, Amir Herzberg
Security of DH key exchange, Jaap-Henk Hoepman
- Re: Security of DH key exchange, Anton Stiglic
authentication and ESP, martin f krafft
- Re: authentication and ESP, Derek Atkins
- Re: authentication and ESP, John S. Denker
  - Re: authentication and ESP, Perry E. Metzger
  - Re: authentication and ESP, Sandy Harris
    - New toy: SSLbar, Steve Schear
- Re: authentication and ESP, Steven M. Bellovin
Re: grumpf: PODC (and security in distributed computing) announcement, Amir Herzberg
Part II of Heritage TPM study released., M Taylor
PODC early registration and hotel deadlines (June 18/19), Amir Herzberg
Pre-cursor to Non-Secret Encryption, John Young
- Re: Pre-cursor to Non-Secret Encryption, Fredrik Henbjork
  - Re: Pre-cursor to Non-Secret Encryption, Francois Grieu
- Re: Pre-cursor to Non-Secret Encryption, Dave Howe
- Re: Pre-cursor to Non-Secret Encryption, Steven M. Bellovin
  - CFP, Security In Storage Workshop, James Hughes
The meat with multiple PGP subkeys, martin f krafft
- Re: The meat with multiple PGP subkeys, David Shaw
  - Re: The meat with multiple PGP subkeys, Stefan Kelm
    - Re: The meat with multiple PGP subkeys, David Shaw
  - Re: The meat with multiple PGP subkeys, martin f krafft
- Re: The meat with multiple PGP subkeys, Werner Koch
US Encryption Exports Clarified, John Young
- Re: US Encryption Exports Clarified, John Saylor
[mnet-devel] status of Mnet, R. A. Hettinga
Sessions, Jill . Ramonsky
- RE: Sessions, Jill . Ramonsky
  - Re: Sessions, Perry E. Metzger
  - RE: Sessions, Pat Farrell
    - Re: Sessions, Derek Atkins
Wildcard Certs, martin f krafft
- Re: Wildcard Certs, Stefan Kelm
  - Re: Wildcard Certs, martin f krafft
- Re: Wildcard Certs, Pete Chown
  - Re: Wildcard Certs, gabriel rosenkoetter
Fourth Announcement for ECC 2003, R. A. Hettinga
Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Steve Schear
- Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, James A. Donald
  - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, tom st denis
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, James A. Donald
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Rich Salz
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Daniel Carosone
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, James A. Donald
  - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Ben Laurie
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, James A. Donald
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Ben Laurie
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Adam Back
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, James A. Donald
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Ian Grigg
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Nick Popoff
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Rich Salz
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, James A. Donald
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Rich Salz
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Adam Back
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Ng Pheng Siong
    - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, James A. Donald
- RE: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Jill . Ramonsky
  - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Matthew Byng-Maddick
  - Re: Session Fixation Vulnerability in Web Based Apps, Pete Chown
Secrets of Computer Espionage: Tactics and Countermeasures, John Young
[ISN] Cryptography at the core of sound IT security, R. A. Hettinga
"C.Wiebes": Bosnia SIGINT & Intelligence '92-'95, John Gilmore
Applied crypto site - lectures, notes, etc..., Amir Herzberg
SDSI/SPKI background, Stefan Mink
- Re: SDSI/SPKI background, Carl Ellison
  - closed systems (was Re: SDSI/SPKI background), Carl Ellison
  - Re: SDSI/SPKI background, Stefan Mink
    - Re: SDSI/SPKI background, Carl Ellison
Re: An attack on paypal --> secure UI for browsers, Peter Gutmann
- Re: An attack on paypal --> secure UI for browsers, Nomen Nescio
  - Re: An attack on paypal --> secure UI for browsers, Rich Salz
- Re: An attack on paypal --> secure UI for browsers, Peter Gutmann
[Publicity-list] DIMACS Tutorial on Computer Security, Linda Casals
- [Publicity-list] DIMACS Tutorial on Computer Security, Linda Casals
NIST selects the OMAC as new block cipher mode, Mads Rasmussen
- Re: NIST selects the OMAC as new block cipher mode, tom st denis
'Hack-proof' cryptography goes quantum, Mads Rasmussen
PODC'03 & Security in Distributed Computing: register and reserve hotel (till Thursday June 12), Amir Herzberg
Keyservers and Spam, Jill . Ramonsky
- Re: Keyservers and Spam, Peter Clay
- Re: Keyservers and Spam, David Honig
- Re: Keyservers and Spam, Victor . Duchovni
- RE: Keyservers and Spam, Jill . Ramonsky
  - Re: Keyservers and Spam, Michael Helm
- RE: Keyservers and Spam, Jill . Ramonsky
  - RE: Keyservers and Spam, Jeffrey Kay
    - RE: Keyservers and Spam, David Honig
  - RE: Keyservers and Spam, Greg Rose
  - Re: Keyservers and Spam, Michael Helm
  - RE: Keyservers and Spam, David Honig
    - RE: Keyservers and Spam, Bill Frantz
    - RE: Keyservers and Spam, David Honig
    - RE: Keyservers and Spam, Bill Frantz
  - RE: Keyservers and Spam, bear
    - RE: Keyservers and Spam, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - RE: Keyservers and Spam, John Kelsey
    - RE: Keyservers and Spam, Pat Farrell
    - RE: Keyservers and Spam, Bill Frantz
    - RE: Keyservers and Spam, David Honig
    - RE: Keyservers and Spam, Bill Frantz
    - RE: Keyservers and Spam, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
- RE: Keyservers and Spam, Nomen Nescio
- RE: Keyservers and Spam, Jill . Ramonsky
  - RE: Keyservers and Spam, John Kelsey
- RE: Keyservers and Spam, Jill . Ramonsky
ADMIN: ACM bouncing list mail again, Perry E. Metzger
About AIM Personal Certificates, R. A. Hettinga
The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, James A. Donald
- Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, martin f krafft
  - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, Roy M . Silvernail
    - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, Jeffrey I. Schiller
- Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, John R. Levine
  - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, Pete Chown
    - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, Dave Howe
    - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, Udhay Shankar N
    - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, Jeffrey I. Schiller
    - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, James A. Donald
  - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, John Saylor
  - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, James A. Donald
- Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, LJ
- Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, Anonymous
  - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, James A. Donald
    - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - certificates & the alternative view, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
  - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, Pete Chown
  - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, James A. Donald
- Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, Nomen Nescio
  - Re: The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix, Jeffrey I. Schiller
An attack on paypal, James A. Donald
- Re: An attack on paypal, tom st denis
  - Re: An attack on paypal, John S. Denker
  - Re: An attack on paypal, James A. Donald
- Re: An attack on paypal, Tim Dierks
  - Re: An attack on paypal --> secure UI for browsers, Amir Herzberg
    - Re: An attack on paypal --> secure UI for browsers, Sean Smith
- Re: An attack on paypal, Dave Howe
  - Re: An attack on paypal, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: An attack on paypal, Dave Howe
    - Re: An attack on paypal, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: An attack on paypal, James A. Donald
    - Re: An attack on paypal, Sunder
    - Re: An attack on paypal, Eric Rescorla
    - Re: https for virtual hosts (was: attack on paypal), John S. Denker
    - Re: An attack on paypal, Matt Crawford
    - Re: An attack on paypal, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: An attack on paypal, David Honig
    - Re: An attack on paypal, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: An attack on paypal, David Honig
    - Re: An attack on paypal, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - PKI not working, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: An attack on paypal (trivia addenda), Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: An attack on paypal, Bill Stewart
    - Re: An attack on paypal, Matthew Byng-Maddick
    - Re: An attack on paypal, Ian Grigg
    - Re: An attack on paypal, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: An attack on paypal, James A. Donald
    - Re: An attack on paypal, Dave Howe
    - virus attack on banks (was attack on paypal), Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: An attack on paypal, Bill Frantz
- Re: An attack on paypal, Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: An attack on paypal, Peter Gutmann
- RE: An attack on paypal, Vincent Penquerc'h
- Re: An attack on paypal, Steven M. Bellovin
  - Re: An attack on paypal, Matt Crawford
- Re: An attack on paypal, Steven M. Bellovin
  - Re: An attack on paypal, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: An attack on paypal, John Gilmore
  - Re: An attack on paypal, James A. Donald
    - Re: An attack on paypal, tom st denis
- Re: An attack on paypal, Peter Gutmann
  - Re: An attack on paypal, Matt Crawford
  - Re: An attack on paypal, Adam Selene
- Re: An attack on paypal, Nomen Nescio
Hitchens: The Cult of ID, R. A. Hettinga
- [OT] Re: Hitchens: The Cult of ID, J.A. Terranson
  - Re: [OT] Re: Hitchens: The Cult of ID, Clive D. W. Feather
Quantum crypto, from BBC, Udhay Shankar N
- Re: Quantum crypto, from BBC, John S. Denker
  - Re: Quantum crypto, from BBC, Bill Stewart
- Re: Quantum crypto, from BBC, Perry E. Metzger
- Re: Quantum crypto, from BBC, Dave Howe
Re: [dgc.chat] Micropayments and the incentive program at e-gold, Jim Davidson
M-209 for sale on ebay, Peter Gutmann
TKIP Paper [draft], tom st denis
Re: Analysis of TKIP from 802.11i, tom st denis
Lucre Updated Again, Ben Laurie
web home for waste, R. A. Hettinga
Microsoft Ties Security to VeriSign, Certifications, R. A. Hettinga
Permutation Steganography, Peter Hendrickson
- Re: Permutation Steganography, Peter Wayner
- Re: Permutation Steganography, Peter Hendrickson
New vs Old (was Snake Oil), Jill . Ramonsky
- Re: New vs Old (was Snake Oil), Sam Simpson
- Re: New vs Old (was Snake Oil), bear
  - Re: New vs Old (was Snake Oil), Bill Stewart
- What is currently recommended? (New v Old), William Allen Simpson
- Re: New vs Old (was Snake Oil), NOP
- Re: New vs Old (was Snake Oil), Bill Stewart
Ntru suffers 'chosen ciphertext attack', Ian Grigg
Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Rescorla
- Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Rich Salz
  - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Frederick Hirsch
- Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Ian Grigg
  - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Murray
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Ian Grigg
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Rescorla
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Ian Grigg
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Young
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Rescorla
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Bill Stewart
  - RE: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Lucky Green
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Ian Grigg
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Bill Stewart
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Ian Grigg
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Peter Clay
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Tim Dierks
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Rescorla
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Jeroen C. van Gelderen
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Bill Frantz
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Jeroen van Gelderen
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Bill Frantz
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Dave Howe
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, James A. Donald
    - Micropayments finally taking off., James A. Donald
    - Re: Micropayments finally taking off., John R. Levine
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, James A. Donald
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, James A. Donald
  - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, John Kelsey
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Bill Frantz
    - Re: CDR: Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Sampo Syreeni
    - Re: CDR: Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Ian Grigg
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Blossom
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, John Kelsey
    - Analysis of TKIP from 802.11i, tom st denis
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Blossom
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, John Kelsey
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Adam Shostack
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Ian Grigg
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Jaap-Henk Hoepman
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, bear
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Donald Eastlake 3rd
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Dave Howe
- Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Amir Herzberg
- Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, bear
- Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Rescorla
- Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Adam Shostack
- Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Peter Gutmann
  - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Bodo Moeller
- Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Peter Gutmann
  - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
  - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, James A. Donald
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Rescorla
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Rich Salz
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Ng Pheng Siong
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, James A. Donald
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Rescorla
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, James A. Donald
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Rescorla
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, James A. Donald
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Rescorla
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Tim Dierks
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, James A. Donald
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Rich Salz
- RE: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Peter Gutmann
  - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Adam Shostack
  - RE: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Tim Dierks
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Ian Grigg
- Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Peter Gutmann
  - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Rich Salz
  - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Murray
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Bill Frantz
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Derek Atkins
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Rescorla
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Derek Atkins
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Ian Grigg
- Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Peter Gutmann
- Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Peter Gutmann
  - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Bodo Moeller
  - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Eric Rescorla
- Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Anonymous Sender
  - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Dave Howe
    - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, James A. Donald
  - Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, James A. Donald
- Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, Peter Gutmann
- Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down, t . c . jones
Re: web apps with large volumes of bidirectional http traffic, Nomen Nescio
Re: "PGP Encryption Proves Powerful", John Kelsey
- Re: "PGP Encryption Proves Powerful", Ben Laurie
- Re: "PGP Encryption Proves Powerful", John Kelsey
  - Re: "PGP Encryption Proves Powerful", Ian Grigg
    - Re: "PGP Encryption Proves Powerful", John Kelsey
- RE: "PGP Encryption Proves Powerful", Jill . Ramonsky
- Re: "PGP Encryption Proves Powerful", Bill Stewart
  - Re: "PGP Encryption Proves Powerful", Bill Stewart
BIS Disk Full, Anonymous
RE: [spam] Re: Nullsoft's WASTE communication system, John Brothers
- Re: [spam] Re: Nullsoft's WASTE communication system, Steven M. Bellovin
Re: Nullsoft's WASTE communication system, David Wagner
- Re: Nullsoft's WASTE communication system, bear
- Re: Nullsoft's WASTE communication system, John Kelsey
  - Re: Nullsoft's WASTE communication system, Zooko
    - Re: Nullsoft's WASTE communication system, Bart Preneel
- Re: Nullsoft's WASTE communication system, Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: Nullsoft's WASTE communication system, Kevin Elliott
  - Re: Nullsoft's WASTE communication system, bear
  - Re: Nullsoft's WASTE communication system, Werner Koch