Re: Peter still in misery (was: Jan doesn't want Peter to know (was: Peter wants

> Guys, these are THE important questions. If either of the 
developers 
> (including in a very minor way myself) would/should answer yes to
> one of these, AND if IBM were to be "dissatisfied" with the 
Hercules idea,
> then yes, the project could have a problem.  

I think we're in danger of losing sight of the wood for the trees.

Whatever the technicalities - and it looks to me at present like Jan 
scored a coup finding what he did - you have to ask what IBM thinks 
of the whole deal.  And perhaps what the ISVs think, too - since it's 
hard to run a modern environment without at least some of their 
products.

Is this being done with IBM's approval, or against their will?  Maybe 
they published the SIE block information deliberately, although the 
noises I'm hearing (!) suggest they didn't.  However legal it might 
yet prove to have been, some in IBM might feel Jan "put one over" on 
them.

I've seen - on many occasions - assertions that IBM "has" to do 
certain things, based on Consent Decrees, EU Undertakings, some 
imagined 'open source commitment', whatever.  The truth is they 
don't, and forcing them to do one thing or the other just puts you on 
the radar and reduces the likelihood of any kind of co-operation in 
the future.  Hercules doesn't have the funding that Itel or Amdahl 
had - it cannot afford the same go-to-market infrastructure.  Even 
the smaller PCMs (such as Steve Ippollito) had to work through the 
big guys.  Hercules needs IBM, and yet seems utterly determined to 
drive IBM away.

To take an example:  IBM (for whatever reason) removed the Hercules 
chapter from the Linux Redbook.  The response?  An immediate and 
concerted set of moves to thwart their purpose by hosting the old 
version (illegally - it's still IBM Copyright) on another system.  
It's still there, as far as I know.  Was this really a victory or a 
defeat?

Is this sort of action (repeated manyfold with the assistance of 
obvious piracy and copyright infringement on the main mailing list) 
calculated to impress or intimidate IBM?

I would have thought the Hercules effort would be trying to sell 
itself to IBM - not cause just as much trouble for it as possible. 


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