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Re: Peter still in misery (was: Jan doesn't want Peter to know (was: Peter : msg#00123

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Subject: Re: Peter still in misery (was: Jan doesn't want Peter to know (was: Peter wants

a)
Every customer who is currently licensed for os/390 on a 9672, 2064
2066 or alike machine, is can also run under hercules on that same
machine.

b)
http://www.vm.ibm.com/pubs/cp31064/SI2BK.HTML




--- In hercules-advocacy-F5Bj5G+ccuY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "commanonce"
<philp@xxxx> wrote:
> > Its been 5 days without an answer so I thought I'd
> > re-up the questions.
>
> I haven't seen any answers to the two very simple questions I've
been
> asking:
>
> a) Name a legal licensee.
>
> b) Name the source of the z/SIE information.
>
> The first one shouldn't be that hard, after all. There are plenty
of
> people getting help with running licensed software on the main
> Hercules-390 board - a couple using DB2 in the last couple of
days,
> for instance. Just email a few of them and get one to send a copy
of
> their license agreement.
>
> Of course, there's the vanishingly tiny chance that one or the
other
> of the latest two are actually running DB2 illegally. That would
> change things more than a little - DB2 is over in Janet Perna's
happy
> little Data Management bunch, where IBM is supposedly pouring $630
> million into new tools. With one of her own people openly
claiming
> to be licensed for "all software on all platforms" she might find
> complaining about DB2 piracy herself a tad embarrassing.
>
> The next escalation will be when someone posts looking for help
with
> big-name ISV software like Adabas, ACF2, etc. That could be when
the
> ordure finally encounters the air-moving device.
>
> Ever read a Computer Associates license agreement?
>
> That will bring in the due diligence aspect of IBM's protection of
> critical assets like SIE - if an ISV makes a case that IBM's
> carelessness with, e.g., the z/SIE specifications has enabled the
> production of a piracy tool, we could be in for some real legal
> twisties.
>
> I'm amazed to see SHARE tolerating - even perhaps encouraging -
> distribution of this stuff at its meetings.


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