Re: Peter still in misery (was: Jan doesn't want Peter to know (was: Peter wants

> > As far as I know, in the worst case hercules would fall into the
> > highest
> > processor group, as it is undefined. (We have discussed this 
before)
> >
> 
> I do not believe that you are correct.   The worst case, without 
saying
> it IS the case,  is that IBM decides it has sufficient cause to not
> license anything on Hercules at all.  In other words, if they felt
> harmed in some way, they wouldn't likely
> feel any obligation (nor would they likely be forced) to license to 
a
> machine that engendered the harm.   I don't believe one can get 
even a
> Group 80 license as a matter of right.

Group licenses are no longer available to anyone under any 
circumstances except continuance of a license signed before 1 January 
2000.  See Announcement Letter 998-295:

http://www.ibmlink.ibm.com/usalets&parms=H_998-295

The "charged at maximum group if unknown" is another piece of 
Hercules FUD - the arrangement was grandfathered to a 200MSUs cap on 
23 Match 1995 by Announcement Letter 395-045:

http://www.ibmlink.ibm.com/usalets&parms=H_395-045

As you will see, the 200MSUs charge was defined for calculation 
purposes as IMLC.  Since the withdrawal of IMLC there has been no way 
to calculate the exact level (in $$$) that a 200 MSUs system would 
have - IBM has changed price levels numerous times since then, and 
converted to a new SAP/R3 system - and so this arrangement died with 
IMLC on 1 January 2000.  No succeeding arrangements have been defined 
for PSLC or (V)WLC - therefore the option is no longer available.

No emulation systems are carried on schedules for reasons with which 
you and I are familiar.  That leaves the PWD option, the ESL option, 
and the GEN Letter option.

We know - from a clear statement on the Partnerworld web site - that 
PWD is only available under Flex-ES.

It's obvious - from the open sourse nature of Hercules - that dongle 
technology is inapplicable and therefore ESL is not available.

I know - because I helped to write the damn thing - that Hercules 
does not appear on the current GEN Letter, which was originally 
produced for the x430.

As if this were not enough, IBM has started sending: "IBM has taken a 
business decision not to license its commercial software on this 
platform" to anyone who enquires about licensing under Hercules.

I'm not saying that (e.g.) z/OS will never be licensed under 
Hercules.  I _AM_ saying that it is currently impossible - it is not 
a matter of money but of policy - and that I see no effort being made 
by anyone to change this position.  I am told there is an RFA in 
circulation about pricing under emulators, but I can find no trace of 
the Hercules project participating in it.

For anyone interested in the progression of IBM's mainframe software 
charging arrangements, I've put a tabulation on the web at 
http://www.isham-research.com/sw_chg_timeline.html


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