Subject: Re: planner-accomplishments errors - msg#00021

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Re: Emacs wiki maintenance

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michael, Of course, that would be up to Sacha... all I have offered is to keep an eye on the list and shepherd patches into a separate location. You will certainly be able to do at least as good a job of that as I can, and any additional ideas you can implement are a further bonus :-) Cheers, Gary. On 7 Sep 2004, at 20:44, Michael Olson wrote: Would it be all right if I become the maintainer of emacs-wiki? I've had several ideas lately that I'd like to try out and enough free time to attempt them. I now have a place on the net where I can host the development of emacs-wiki <http://www.mwolson.org/projects>. Some of these ideas include: - Merge in some of the improvements from Muse, like forcing the user to put a space before a list item (like "^ - " and "^ 1. "). This way, it is harder to accidentally get part of a long paragraph marked up as a list because of word wrap. It would be great if Muse and emacs-wiki had a common input syntax (or at least a variable to turn on Muse file parsing in emacs-wiki) so that it is easy for content providers to move between the two publishing formats. - Make it so that different spin-offs of emacs-wiki can be used concurrently by a project. For example, make it so that a journal (or any emacs-wiki based project) can have different RSS feeds. Not sure I understand... - Add the `emacs-wiki-server-prefix' variable to journal and planner so that these things can be used together more effectively. Excellent idea! I have been meaning to do that myself for a long time :-) - Add quite a bit of documentation to emacs-wiki.texi, examples, complete descriptions of all markup rules, and the like. You can't have too much documentation. Shouldn't ours be a wiki though? Cheers, Gary. - -- Gary V. Vaughan ())_. gary@{lilith.warpmail.net,gnu.org} Research Scientist ( '/ http://tkd.kicks-ass.net GNU Hacker / )= http://www.gnu.org/software/libtool Technical Author `(_~)_ http://sources.redhat.com/autobook -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBPjvkFRMICSmD1gYRAh4wAKCcv11Yqx3010aH81OyhZ6LPFwR/QCgvr1j 7qXn9DVmjm/+zgi1WH2Rt8E= =YGzI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: More planner stuff.

cc-ing our mailing list at emacs-wiki-discuss@xxxxxxxxxx (http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-wiki-discuss). =) Joseph Kiniry <kiniry@xxxxxxx> writes: Sorry about the late reply! > I have installed your new dev snapshot. I now witness different > behavior, but many things still seem to not be working right. I was > afraid that perhaps some of my old customize settings are causing > trouble, plus I know you have added lots of new stuff, so I am going > through all the customize menus trying to learn what is in there now. Whoops, so sorry... > 1. Planner Calendar Show Planner Files: Hide Value Toggle on (non-nil) > State: this option is unchanged from its standard setting. > If non-nil, shows a plan file every time a day is selected in Calendar. > How does one "select" a day in the calendar in such a way that planner > sees it? I use calendar mode a lot, coupled with diary mode for years, > but I don't see any planner-related functionality in it. First, call M-x planner-calendar-insinuate. Then, whenever you're navigating in a calendar window (M-x calendar, for example) using arrow keys, the planner file for the day underneath your cursor will be displayed, if one exists. This behavior is customizable. > What is the point of the <contents> prefix? How should the .diary It used to display a nice table of contents including note titles, but we had to process <tags> before everything else (even notes) in order to make sure <example>...</example> sections didn't get marked up any further. Now it just provides a quick way to jump to the different sections in published HTML. If you don't publish your plan, you can remove it. > schedule section be treated? I have an existing multi-year diary. > Should I continue to use diary to set schedules, deadlines, etc. and > somehow they'll be integrated into and presented with planner? If you use planner-diary, appointments from diary can be automatically included in your planner files. Changes you make in your planner files don't automatically reflect in your diary, though. I use a couple of functions to make it easier for me to add things to my diary from my planner file. For example, running sacha/planner-diary-schedule-task while the cursor is on a task prompts me for the start and end time, copies it into my schedule, and updates the task description. > On a related note, I've been moving to iCal lately. Has anyone talked > about integrating planner et al with iCal and related tools, perhaps > via WebDAV publishing? Mmm, that should be interesting. On a related note, you can actually export from planner to formats understood by remind and diary. As long as your schedule entries are relatively well-formed, you can parse it to produce whatever output you want. For example, I usually make my schedule entries look like this: hh:mm | hh:mm | Entry hh:mm | hh:mm | Entry hh:mm | hh:mm | Entry This is published as a table in the final HTML page. The start and end times make it easy for me to translate this into the format expected by other programs. > 3. Planner Sort Tasks Automatically: Hide Value Toggle on (non-nil) > State: this option is unchanged from its standard setting. > Non-nil means sort tasks whenever a planner file is saved. > My day pages do not sort automatically, though I see the > write-files-functions does include the appropriate planner-sort-tasks > and planner-id-update-tasks-maybe. This functionality seems to come > and go for me, BTW, as I update through various version of planner from > you. Hmm. Day pages should sort by status and then priority. Does M-x planner-fix-tasks fix it? > 4. What is the difference between the planner diary file, the planner > diary cal desk file, the planner diary appts file, and the planer diary > private & public files and related functionality? Can I use the same > file for both of these? Can it simply be my old, big diary file? Umm... Thomas Gehrlein, help! <grin> I think this functionality evolved because people wanted to keep public appointments for their colleagues and private appointments for their own. The separation allowed them to publish different parts. I suspect we can make this more flexible, though. As for cal-desk, it seems to be a fancy way of displaying things... > Parse error: parse error in /Users/kiniry/Sites/WebWiki/2004.09.03.php > on line 1 > I've appended that page to this email so that you can review it. There > happens to also be a 2004.09.03.html file, which I'll also attach. But > I see no other HTML files in the publish directory. <?xml version="1.0"?> confuses PHP, as <? is the PHP shortcut tag. You could configure PHP to use long tags, I think, or remove the XHTML tag. > 6. Any plans on writing a Texinfo manual for all these neat new > features? I enjoy writing docs and specs more than I enjoy writing > software, so I might be of some assistance. Perfect! I love getting documentation for current and proposed features. It makes it so much easier to program. Currently I like focusing on documenting how people use Planner. More of "why", actually... <laugh> Ooh. I think we've forgotten to document some of the features. What do you particularly like, and how can the documentation be improved? > Thanks for your assistance. While I could just read the source and > figure some of these things out, sometimes the source says more about > current state-of-affairs rather than intentions-in-design. :) ^_^ -- Sacha Chua <sacha@xxxxxxxxxxx> - open source geekette interests: emacs, gnu/linux, making computer science education fun wearable computing, personal information management http://sacha.free.net.ph/ - PGP Key ID: 0xE7FDF77C

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Re: Re: planner-accomplishments errors

>>>>> On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, "Sacha" == Sacha Chua wrote: Sacha> (let ((page (and (planner-derived-mode-p 'planner-mode) Sacha> might do the trick. Okay, that seemed to do it. I now get a planner-accomplishments buffer listing: Accomplishment report for [[2004.09.07]] Link | Unfinished | In progress | Total ThingsToOrder | 6 | 0 | 6 PriorityShuffle | 3 | 0 | 3 AssetInventory | 2 | 0 | 2 LapTops | 1 | 1 | 2 nil | 2 | 0 | 2 AfsProject | 1 | 0 | 1 DesktopHelp | 1 | 0 | 1 [[OpsMtg20040726]] | 1 | 0 | 1 [[2004.06.08]] | 1 | 0 | 1 Total | 18 | 1 | 19 Which is similar to what planner-accomplishments-update gave me. To which you said: Sacha> I don't suppose you can invoke align-regexp by hand? Sure I can, the question is, what regexp do I invoke it with? I also noticed that the following 2 lines (near the very bottom of the file) in planner-accomplishments.el are commented out: ; (when (fboundp 'align-regexp) ; (align-regexp (point-min) (point-max) "\\(\\s-*\\)|" 1 1 t)) When I uncomment those 2 lines, planner-accomplishments-show dies with backtrace. When I try to insert the regexp '\\(\\s-*\\)|' (sans quotes) in that second line into a manual M-x align-regexp invocation, I get nothing. C-h l shows: untabify: done Highlighting buffer...done Highlighting buffer...89% Highlighting buffer...81% Highlighting buffer...71% Highlighting buffer...64% Highlighting buffer...52% Highlighting buffer...46% Highlighting buffer...37% Highlighting buffer...29% Highlighting buffer...12% Recognizing tables...done Which seems to indicate it's doing something, just not the right thing. Ideas? Could this be another lesson in Comarative Emacsology ? -- Seeya, Paul GPG Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!

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Re: Re: planner-accomplishments errors

In a message dated: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 13:28:32 +0900 Sacha Chua said: >pll+ew@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > >> Sacha> I don't suppose you can invoke align-regexp by hand? >> Sure I can, the question is, what regexp do I invoke it with? > >C-u M-x align-regexp >\(\s-*\)| >1 >1 >y I'm not clear on this. When I do this, where do I input the 1 1 y ? >Hmm. \s- might be a CVSism. You could also try \([ \t\n]\)| , I think... This got me closer, now it looks like this: Link | Unfinished | In progress | Completed | Total ThingsToOrder | 7 | 0 | 0 | 7 PriorityShuffle | 3 | 0 | 0 | 3 AssetInventory | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 LapTops | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2 nil | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 DesktopHelp | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 AfsProject | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 [[OpsMtg20040726]]| 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 Total | 17 | 1 | 1 | 19 -- Seeya, Paul GPG Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!