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Subject: Fw: looking for image of hermaphrodite human as told by Aristophanes in Plato's Sympoisum

With Rick's permission, i forward this conversation to the classics list. Start reading from the bottom, if interested. It's pretty self-explanatory.
Janice
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:52 PM
Subject: RE: looking for image of hermaphrodite human as told by Aristophanes in Plato's Sympoisum

Hi Janice,

 

Great advice, thanks.

 

Rick

 

You asked for the URL to my lecture page. Go to

 

http://eebweb.arizona.edu/michod/intro_bio_182.htm

 

There you can refer to the ?My 182 lectures? web presentation and slides 49 and 50 introduce Plato?s theory and Hedwig.

 

I played the video in class and they loved it. It is an intro biology class.

 

If you go to the following link

 

http://eebweb.arizona.edu/michod/books.htm

 

click on my ?Eros and Evolution? book and there you will find selections from the book (click on selections) and scroll down to ?Plato?s theory of repair? and you will find the connection between Aristophanes story and our theory of the evolution of sex.

 

You will find a lot of other stuff relating to the evolution of sex at my web site. http://eebweb.arizona.edu/michod

 

Again thanks for the information!

 

Rick

 


From: Janice Siegel [mailto:jfsiege@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 9:38 AM
To: Rick Michod
Cc: dr j
Subject: Re: looking for image of hermaphrodite human as told by Aristophanes in Plato's Sympoisum

 

Get a copy of the DVD version of the 2000 (?) film "Hedwig and the Angry Inch" - you will find an animated rock video for a song called "The Origin of Love" which sort of tells the story as Aristophanes does in the Symposium (there are some differences, such as when Zeus refers to the time that he cut the legs off the whale), but you will find what you are looking for. I am sure you can get a screen shot from it, and you can credit the animator, who happens to be the wife of the nephew (?) of my associate dean...

 

I know this sounds like weird advice, but trust me. If you can give me a URL to link back to, after you put your presentation together, I'd be grateful. Always good to show students (and colleagues) how knowledge of the ancient world informs and enriches our own.

 

Cheers,

Janice (aka Dr. J)

 

Janice Siegel
Assistant Professor of Classics
Illinois State University
Dept of Foreign Languages
Mail Code 4300
Normal, Illinois 61790
309-438-3583

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick Michod

Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 9:07 AM

Subject: looking for image of hermaphrodite human as told by Aristophanes in Plato's Sympoisum

 

Dr. J.

 

I came across your web site. I?m a biologist who studies the evolution of sex as a form of genetic repair by which the whole (DNA molecule) is recreated by recombination. In my presentations I use Aristophanes story as a kind of overview and I?ve been looking for an image, maybe a painting, of the primordial hermaphroditic state of humans as told by Aristophanes. Do you know of such an image or painting?

 

Thank you in advance

 

Rick Michod

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