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>Well, Firefox is a browser and Thunar a file manager. I don't think >that tabbing belongs into a file manager. Just my thought about this >topic. > yes you are more than correct to say that the 2 applications are different, I was just using firefox as an example for the purpose of terminology and concept. I find tabs usefull in any application where you normally have multiple instances, as for filemanager is is more than common that I have 3 or 4 instances open, as is with terminal windows. Total comander is a windowz filemanager which supports a tab like feature. I find that tabbs should be standard in the following types of applications: Instant messanger chats terminal windows browsers filemanagers Office application suite Like I said it should be an option as not all people will want to use it GX _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

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On 8/28/06, Stefan Stuhr <thunardevlist@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > tir, 29 08 2006 kl. 03:58 +0200, skrev Bernhard Walle: > > Hello, > > > > * GX GLIX <mailme_gx@xxxxxxxxxxx> [2006-08-29 03:31]: > > > Has any body considred the option of tabs (much like firefox) I find this > > > a > > > very handy feature and will put thunar one notch above other file > > > managers. > > > > Well, Firefox is a browser and Thunar a file manager. I don't think > > that tabbing belongs into a file manager. Just my thought about this > > topic. > > I agree. > > A web browser is for the web - a gigantic global network of websites on > webservers, with separate roots (domains) and connected by hyperlinks. > Websites are written in the hyper text markup language (HTML). > > A file manager is (primary) for managing files on the local filesystem - > with a single root (on POSIX systems, at least). One can't use a basic > file manager to view fancy content like HTML; it will only show the > files, as icons or in a list, and allow one to navigate the folder > hierarchy, move files and folders around, and other file management > tasks. > > In a web browser I want tabs; I want to go to a website, read the > content, and open some interesting links in new tabs (in the background) > along the way. Maybe I want to read the content on the website of one of > the links right away - then I open the link in a new tab and switch to > the new tab. When I am finished reading, I close the new tab and go back > to the tab containing the first website. > > The web (and as such a web browser) is all about content, and hyperlinks > between content. (Basic) File managers, on the other hand, are only > about the paths to content, only about the addresses, and not about the > content itself. File managers are also based on a single and relatively > simple file hierarchy, while the web is about as decentralised as it can > get, with almost as many hierarchies as there are websites. > > My point is that web browsers and file managers - while they can share a > lot of navigational UI elements - have completely different use cases. > IMHO. > > Some may like tabs in a file manager. But I don't think that Thunar > needs to be the ultimate file manager for everyone. It can't be. Adding > tabs makes the UI more complex. Adding features X, Y, and Z makes it > even worse. The developer have to say stop at some point. > > In the end it is Benedikt who have to make the decision. Made. Tabs were discussed a loooong time ago in the UI planning stages, and for various reasons, decided against. If anyone is hardcore pro tabs, pull up the old threads, and make us a use case > > > Regards, > > Bernhard > > Stefan > > _______________________________________________ > Thunar-dev mailing list > Thunar-dev@xxxxxxxx > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/thunar-dev > -- Erik <@kazin> why does php have 'echo' and 'print'? Do they do different things? <Bluefoxicy> kazin: echo prints in a big empty room

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>Well, Firefox is a browser and Thunar a file manager. I don't think >that tabbing belongs into a file manager. Just my thought about this >topic. > yes you are more than correct to say that the 2 applications are different, I was just using firefox as an example for the purpose of terminology and concept. I find tabs usefull in any application where you normally have multiple instances, as for filemanager is is more than common that I have 3 or 4 instances open, as is with terminal windows. Total comander is a windowz filemanager which supports a tab like feature. I find that tabbs should be standard in the following types of applications: Instant messanger chats terminal windows browsers filemanagers Office application suite Like I said it should be an option as not all people will want to use it GX _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

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On 8/28/06, Stefan Stuhr <thunardevlist@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > tir, 29 08 2006 kl. 03:58 +0200, skrev Bernhard Walle: > > Hello, > > > > * GX GLIX <mailme_gx@xxxxxxxxxxx> [2006-08-29 03:31]: > > > Has any body considred the option of tabs (much like firefox) I find this > > > a > > > very handy feature and will put thunar one notch above other file > > > managers. > > > > Well, Firefox is a browser and Thunar a file manager. I don't think > > that tabbing belongs into a file manager. Just my thought about this > > topic. > > I agree. > > A web browser is for the web - a gigantic global network of websites on > webservers, with separate roots (domains) and connected by hyperlinks. > Websites are written in the hyper text markup language (HTML). > > A file manager is (primary) for managing files on the local filesystem - > with a single root (on POSIX systems, at least). One can't use a basic > file manager to view fancy content like HTML; it will only show the > files, as icons or in a list, and allow one to navigate the folder > hierarchy, move files and folders around, and other file management > tasks. > > In a web browser I want tabs; I want to go to a website, read the > content, and open some interesting links in new tabs (in the background) > along the way. Maybe I want to read the content on the website of one of > the links right away - then I open the link in a new tab and switch to > the new tab. When I am finished reading, I close the new tab and go back > to the tab containing the first website. > > The web (and as such a web browser) is all about content, and hyperlinks > between content. (Basic) File managers, on the other hand, are only > about the paths to content, only about the addresses, and not about the > content itself. File managers are also based on a single and relatively > simple file hierarchy, while the web is about as decentralised as it can > get, with almost as many hierarchies as there are websites. > > My point is that web browsers and file managers - while they can share a > lot of navigational UI elements - have completely different use cases. > IMHO. > > Some may like tabs in a file manager. But I don't think that Thunar > needs to be the ultimate file manager for everyone. It can't be. Adding > tabs makes the UI more complex. Adding features X, Y, and Z makes it > even worse. The developer have to say stop at some point. > > In the end it is Benedikt who have to make the decision. Made. Tabs were discussed a loooong time ago in the UI planning stages, and for various reasons, decided against. If anyone is hardcore pro tabs, pull up the old threads, and make us a use case > > > Regards, > > Bernhard > > Stefan > > _______________________________________________ > Thunar-dev mailing list > Thunar-dev@xxxxxxxx > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/thunar-dev > -- Erik <@kazin> why does php have 'echo' and 'print'? Do they do different things? <Bluefoxicy> kazin: echo prints in a big empty room