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On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Gaël Le Mignot wrote:
>
> And ? It's a temporary solution that allow user to use an ssh client
> and/or server, which is very usefull. You just have to add a debconf
> warning saying that the entropy source is unsafe, and asking the user
> to pay attention. We don't need more for now, since anyway no Hurd box
> will be used in a critical environement in a near future.
>
I have suggested something like this in total.sh (used for installing the
most wanted packages)

Phil.

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Re: K1 images - final report?

Alfred a écrit : > Why don't just add urandom server to the official base system? > Because there is no good entropy source. And ? It's a temporary solution that allow user to use an ssh client and/or server, which is very usefull. You just have to add a debconf warning saying that the entropy source is unsafe, and asking the user to pay attention. We don't need more for now, since anyway no Hurd box will be used in a critical environement in a near future. -- Gael Le Mignot "Kilobug" - kilobug@xxxxxxxxx - http://kilobug.free.fr GSM : 06.71.47.18.22 (in France) ICQ UIN : 7299959 Fingerprint : 1F2C 9804 7505 79DF 95E6 7323 B66B F67B 7103 C5DA Member of HurdFr: http://hurdfr.org - The GNU Hurd: http://hurd.gnu.org

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On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:56:08AM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 11:47:09PM +0100, pancake wrote: > > PD: another thing... Why dont remove the /usr link and make it as > > directory...Yes could be hard...but it's a necessary change, sooner or > > later we must change that. Why don't now? > > You misunderstood the purpose of the link. The goal is to get rid of /usr, > not to have it as a real directory. > > Marcus IMHO, since the ext2 translator doesn't support partitions of more than 1GB, I think it is a necessary change. After all the link will not break the File Hierarchy Standard to which Debian is compliant? A /usr partition read-only can diminish the negative effects of the still often HURD panics and crashes. Piotr -- PGP key id = 90207FD8 Key fingerprint = ABA1 4880 0346 A8D2 CA57 EC24 45CB 9608 9020 7FD8 ICQ nr. = 101364861

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On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 10:26:54AM +0100, Gal Le Mignot wrote: > Alfred a écrit : > > > Why don't just add urandom server to the official base system? > > Because there is no good entropy source. > > And ? It's a temporary solution that allow user to use an ssh client > and/or server, which is very usefull. You just have to add a debconf > warning saying that the entropy source is unsafe, and asking the user > to pay attention. We don't need more for now, since anyway no Hurd box > will be used in a critical environement in a near future. That kind of thinking is fairly dangerous. a) Debconf is not a billboard. Doing this is a hack. b) It will become a low priority task to remove a poor entropy source once things "just work." Better to make everyone realise that something is wrong, and perhaps motivate someone to fix it. Simon

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