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On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 11:42:10AM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 10:32:42AM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote:
> > Egads!
> >
> > So I go to try and prepare a QA upload of guile-oops to orphan it properly,
> > and it's currently a native package. I just converted visualos to a
> > non-native package, so I figure I'll have a go with guile-oops.
> >
> > The bloody thing's got a tarball inside its source tarball. What should I do
> > in this case? Leave it as a native package? Run away?
>
> You have to restart debian version by -1.

Why? I really don't see why this should be necessary.

I checked out the package, and it actually has a tarball inside with the
contents of the 1.0 version of that very debian package...

Since newest upstream is 1.0.2, simply start with that upstream
.orig.tar.gz, and apply any patches you can discover in the package
(though due to the very weird layout of the package, that might be
hard).

Note that upstream includes a 'debian' directory: the upstream author
apparantly did develpment in Debian sid, since the sid version has
changes to the upstream changelog (additions), and already bumps the
reported version number as 1.0.3 (!), but hasn't yet been released on
GNU's website.

Since there was no upstream release since March 2001, maybe this package
should be removed from the archive altogether.

--Jeroen

--
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
Jeroen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357)
http://Jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl




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Re: NCO maintainer MIA

On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 09:22:29AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > Hi, > > * Charlie Zender (zender@xxxxxxx) [040624 03:25]: > > I am now formally asking that Debian transition NCO maintainership > > to me and Rorik Peterson <ffrap1@xxxxxxx> over some reasonable > > timescale. Rorik and I are both Debian users. We implemented what > > we feel is a high-quality, up-to-date, Debian compliant, package > > for NCO and have been distributing from the NCO homepage: > > Yes, you can take over the maintainership. The problem is, however, > that you need to find a debian developer who does the upload for you. > For details, please see > http://people.debian.org/~mpalmer/debian-mentors_FAQ.html > > > We are very eager to begin regular updates of NCO to Sid. > > That's good. Thanks for that. > Ok, you found one. I'll keep an eye over it ASAP. Martin, would you issue a WNPP O report for that? -- Francesco P. Lovergine

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Re: NCO maintainer MIA

* Francesco P. Lovergine (frankie@xxxxxxxxxx) [040624 11:55]: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 09:22:29AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > Hi, > > > > * Charlie Zender (zender@xxxxxxx) [040624 03:25]: > > > I am now formally asking that Debian transition NCO maintainership > > > to me and Rorik Peterson <ffrap1@xxxxxxx> over some reasonable > > > timescale. Rorik and I are both Debian users. We implemented what > > > we feel is a high-quality, up-to-date, Debian compliant, package > > > for NCO and have been distributing from the NCO homepage: > > > > Yes, you can take over the maintainership. The problem is, however, > > that you need to find a debian developer who does the upload for you. > > For details, please see > > http://people.debian.org/~mpalmer/debian-mentors_FAQ.html > > > > > We are very eager to begin regular updates of NCO to Sid. > > > > That's good. Thanks for that. > Ok, you found one. I'll keep an eye over it ASAP. > > Martin, would you issue a WNPP O report for that? No need for an O-report. If you want, you can directly create an ITA. But even this is not required IMHO. The upload can just refer to this discussion, e.g. * new maintainers, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2004/06/... Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C

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Re: guile-oops

On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 10:32:42AM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > Egads! > > So I go to try and prepare a QA upload of guile-oops to orphan it properly, > and it's currently a native package. I just converted visualos to a > non-native package, so I figure I'll have a go with guile-oops. > > The bloody thing's got a tarball inside its source tarball. What should I do > in this case? Leave it as a native package? Run away? You have to restart debian version by -1. That typically requires epoch if upstream version cannot be updated. -- Francesco P. Lovergine

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Re: guile-oops

On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 12:06:33PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 11:42:10AM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 10:32:42AM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > > > Egads! > > > > > > So I go to try and prepare a QA upload of guile-oops to orphan it > > > properly, > > > and it's currently a native package. I just converted visualos to a > > > non-native package, so I figure I'll have a go with guile-oops. > > > > > > The bloody thing's got a tarball inside its source tarball. What should I > > > do > > > in this case? Leave it as a native package? Run away? > > > > You have to restart debian version by -1. > > Why? I really don't see why this should be necessary. > > I checked out the package, and it actually has a tarball inside with the > contents of the 1.0 version of that very debian package... > > Since newest upstream is 1.0.2, simply start with that upstream > .orig.tar.gz, and apply any patches you can discover in the package > (though due to the very weird layout of the package, that might be > hard). Well I can't remember exactly what I did yesterday, but the problem I struct that caused me to go "gah!" was that I got the good old "cannot represent binary changes in diff" problem, which is when I discovered this big fat tarball... > Note that upstream includes a 'debian' directory: the upstream author > apparantly did develpment in Debian sid, since the sid version has > changes to the upstream changelog (additions), and already bumps the > reported version number as 1.0.3 (!), but hasn't yet been released on > GNU's website. > > Since there was no upstream release since March 2001, maybe this package > should be removed from the archive altogether. > I'm all for that :-)
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