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Re: New vulnerability released: msg#00025

Subject: Re: New vulnerability released
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 01:20:59PM +0000, bannedit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> I just released a vulnerability last night so hopefully the security 
> team considers it worthy of a DSA. How long does it usually take for a 
> DSA to be created and released?

  Can take days, or weeks.  It really depends.  Partly it is down to:

        * How obvious the hole is.
        * How simple the patch is.
        * (Whether there is a patch available at all).
        * Whether the team can manage it immediately, or need maintainer help.
        * Exactly how many other advisories are pending.

  In a case like the report you made I'd expect it to take a while.
 You're certainly correct that there is a hole, and that it should 
 be changed - but without it being obviously exploitable or containing
 a patch it'll be a bit of work to fix it up.

  Then there's coordination with other vendors who ship the same
 product, and upstream.  So .. more delays.

> What is everyones thoughts on creating proof of concept.

  I like them.   I tend to get bored easily though, so whilst I will
 often write something to exploit a hole I don't often share it.

  I used to followup to bugtraq after an advisory had been released 
 with more details, or an exploit, but now I don't often bother.  I
 get sick of the 40+ "out of office" mails I tend to recieve when
 posting there :(

> I realize it can be a good thing or a bad thing. 

  I guess that comes down to how copmlete it is.  I've seen some
 "crippled" exploits, although I question their effectiveness.

> I like making POC for the majority 
> of the flaws I find just to prove to myself its actually exploitable.

  Ditto.

> I do realize that even if its not exploitable in most cases the code 
> should be changed or atleast thats my feelings. If it looks vulnerable 
> it probably is and if it isn't it may become vulnerable later on due to 
> library changes or other external changes.

  Right.

Steve
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