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Re: Debian unstable suid/sgid list: msg#00017

Subject: Re: Debian unstable suid/sgid list
On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 02:45:21PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
> 
>   Getting the information from source packages would be almost trivial,
>  although I suspect you'd have a lot of false positives.  The only issue
>  is having a fast mirror, or all the source handy.

Well, I have a full mirror at home and (currently) over 30Gb of free space. 
The partition for the Debian mirror is starting to fill up, however.

> > That is, unless there is a mechanism that I could use to automatically
> > track new packages that enter the archive. That would take away the need
> > for a complete mirror and I could just delete the processed packages.
> 
>   You could scan the section from the end of the DWN perhaps?  That
>  always has a section with new and noteworthy packages in it.  Failing

DWN only includes some packages and it wouldn't provide information on 
updates.

>  that you could look at the NEW queue on master if you're a Debian
>  developer.

Maybe checking out the current buildd system (or lintian) would be a way to 
start this. Keeping track of which package has been analysed is just a 
matter of keeping track of them somewhere (a file?) when some action is 
taken and then comparing them afterwards to see if there are newer 
packages.

> > That would be nice indeed. Some of the bugs I've come across could have
> > been found easily with an automated vulnerability scanner. Especially
> > stuff like passing user-controllable format strings to syslog() just
> > shouldn't happen any more..
> 
>   I've already started work on something very similar, I'll post a
>  URL tomorrow or so.  I have a system which downlaods and unpacks 
>  a given package then runs a recursive scan on it.

That's great.

> 
>   It would be used for a general audit - if I had the space to hold
>  all the source packages...

I already have the source packages, and I we could have this run in one of 
the Debian mirrors, even.

>   I set asside a couple of hundred pounds for a non-x86 machine a while
>  back - and still haven't been able to find a cheap working one, so
>  it's almost certain I'll buy a pair of big drives with the cash
>  instead.  Not as sexy but at least it would be useful.

I have a couple of cheap drives currently holding personal mirrors 
(Debian, OpenBSD, Adamantix, Owl, Knoppix...) and there's plenty of space 
to run scripts to analyse the sources there.

> > I'd volunteer to write the extraction scripts.
> 
>   I'll post my code soon, any comments or suggestions would be
>  appreciated.
> 

Great. I can compromise to run my local mirror through it and tell you if 
it works.

>   The hardest part is getting a buildable source - many packages include
>  the source in tarballs (eg. Apache) so "apt-get source foo" isn't
>  sufficient to download the source and scan it..

Yes, that's one drawback, packages using dbs need to be run in order to 
apply all the patches. Maybe running 'debian/rules setup' would do for 
those but some others (including apache) which implement their own 
mechanism might not even use dbs (but a home-grown mechanism). 

Regards

Javier

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