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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Christopher Browne wrote:

> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when chriskl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> (Christopher Kings-Lynne) would write:
> > Anyone seen the new looking OSDB.org?
> >
> > http://www.osdb.org/
>
> Interesting; it points at Backplane (<http://backplane.com/>), which
> is one I had not previously heard of. It sounds rather like the
> recent "clustering" version of PostgreSQL.

I was looking through their docs, and it seems like it's definitely an
early early release.

While it supports sub transactions, it has many gaping holes left to be
implemented:

the only data type supported is string
No support for OR in the where clause
No mention of triggers, constraints, et. al.

But Matt Dillon is a great programmer, I could see this database becoming
a contender in a year or two for certain types of use cases.


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Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when chriskl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Christopher Kings-Lynne) would write: > Anyone seen the new looking OSDB.org? > > http://www.osdb.org/ Interesting; it points at Backplane (<http://backplane.com/>), which is one I had not previously heard of. It sounds rather like the recent "clustering" version of PostgreSQL. Their licensing policy seems to be derivative of that of MySQL: "Our software can be used freely, up to a point, in commercial settings." With the line: "To anyone in doubt, we recommend the commercial licence. It really can't be wrong." That is pretty sure to limit interest in it. If you might imagine using it for "commercial purposes," you might better consider something more popular like Oracle or DB/2. That being said, the design sounds interesting; quite different from any of the other SQL databases I have seen. The whole thing is based on a replication/synchronization scheme, and watching for issues of deadlock under conditions of particularly heavy load is likely the grand challenge. -- output = reverse("moc.enworbbc" "@" "enworbbc") http://cbbrowne.com/info/sap.html Rules of the Evil Overlord #24. "I will maintain a realistic assessment of my strengths and weaknesses. Even though this takes some of the fun out of the job, at least I will never utter the line "No, this cannot be! I AM INVINCIBLE!!!" (After that, death is usually instantaneous.)" <http://www.eviloverlord.com/> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, elein wrote: > On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 08:46:16PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Gavin Sherry wrote: > > > > > > > Can we just sign up Google news clipping service to the list so that > > > > everyone gets emailed automatically when there is an article mentioning > > > > postgres? > > > > > > Please don't. This is a bad idea. If people want the service, they can > > > subscribe to it themselves. > > > > How about a 'pgsql-in-the-news' mailing list that sends a digest to > > -announce? :) > > I really like this idea. Anyone else? I think it deserves its own mailing list. -- Dan Langille - BSDCan: http://www.bsdcan.org/ ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html

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Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when chriskl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Christopher Kings-Lynne) would write: > Anyone seen the new looking OSDB.org? > > http://www.osdb.org/ Interesting; it points at Backplane (<http://backplane.com/>), which is one I had not previously heard of. It sounds rather like the recent "clustering" version of PostgreSQL. Their licensing policy seems to be derivative of that of MySQL: "Our software can be used freely, up to a point, in commercial settings." With the line: "To anyone in doubt, we recommend the commercial licence. It really can't be wrong." That is pretty sure to limit interest in it. If you might imagine using it for "commercial purposes," you might better consider something more popular like Oracle or DB/2. That being said, the design sounds interesting; quite different from any of the other SQL databases I have seen. The whole thing is based on a replication/synchronization scheme, and watching for issues of deadlock under conditions of particularly heavy load is likely the grand challenge. -- output = reverse("moc.enworbbc" "@" "enworbbc") http://cbbrowne.com/info/sap.html Rules of the Evil Overlord #24. "I will maintain a realistic assessment of my strengths and weaknesses. Even though this takes some of the fun out of the job, at least I will never utter the line "No, this cannot be! I AM INVINCIBLE!!!" (After that, death is usually instantaneous.)" <http://www.eviloverlord.com/> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

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People: > > That being said, the design sounds interesting; quite different from > any of the other SQL databases I have seen. The whole thing is based > on a replication/synchronization scheme, and watching for issues of > deadlock under conditions of particularly heavy load is likely the > grand challenge. I've been interested in Backplane since it was announced; it's fascinating to see a database server based on a truly *different* concept. I notice that OSDB seems to have a slight bias towards us. Is someone in our community on that project? If not, how should we thank them? -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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