Re: PHP/Postgresql Advocacy

> 3) Are personal insults the preferred method of discussion in PostgreSQL 
> community?

Alex, please do not pursue this. Marc was wrong in his response but 
continuing at least this part of the thread will not help the situation.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake



> 
> 
> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> >>>and that it does *need* to be fixed ... hell, everyone on the list even
> >>>welcomes Alexey's input and work towards fixing it ... what nobody is
> >>>welcoming is his "do it my way or no way" attitude ...
> >>
> >>I guess I didn't get that from his posts. I just got that he is frustrated
> >>because he is passionate about PostgreSQL but it seems that the website
> >>and web community around it is so difficult to deal with.
> > 
> > 
> > You must have missed his original thread then, when he vehemently(sp?)
> > argued that we should give him full CVS access to change the web site
> > because the mock up he showed us of what he wanted to do was sooooo vastly
> > superior to what is there now ...
> > 
> > 
> >>I actually don't know if the web community is difficult to deal with so
> >>I can speak to that.
> > 
> > 
> > They aren't ... there is a mailing list setup for discussing the technical
> > www issues ... it is a fairly large list, but it isn't an open list (ie.
> > subscriptions are mooerated to the extent of 'you want to be on it, let
> > Dave know and he'll add you' ... basically, if you are interested enough
> > in being a part of it to ask to be apart of it, you'll get added ... we
> > have no 'full time, that is all they do, web developer', everything is
> > like -hackesr ... a volunteer group that does what they can, when they can
> > ...
> > 
> > Alexey came along from the start with "give me the reins and I'll fix all
> > the problems" ... and even that wouldn't been so bad, except he came out
> > of no where, told everyone they were doing it all wrong, and that his way
> > was better ...
> > 
> > That put the hackles up on everyones necks who have been spending their
> > spare time trying to clean up the web sites and improve them ...
> > 
> > Nobody has once stated that Alexey doesn't have anything to contribute ...
> > and alot of effort has been made by several to 'steer him' into the
> > sequence of steps that has been determined need to be done to improve
> > things ... but, I know in my case at least, any positive benefits Alexey
> > can bring to the community are being heavily negated by his temper
> > tantrums ...
> > 
> > So, do we think Alexey has something to contribute?  Yes, definitely ...
> > 
> > 
> >>Sure... but to some degree he is right.
> > 
> > 
> > Guess it depends on how you parent ... my 2 year old throws temper
> > tantrums ... we put her on the floor and let her yell her lungs out until
> > she decides that she's just not makign as much headway as she could be
> > making ...
> > 
> > Alexey, right now, is about in the same league ... he could get alot more
> > done, faster, if we didn't have to wait out his temper tantrums ...
> 
> 

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