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?Timothy de Carmain de Perillos?: msg#00022culture.templar.rosemont
"Tim Carmain claims he "obtained" his title from the "Imperial government of Vietnam". Vietnam is currently ruled by a communist regime and this "Imperial government" is apparently trying to seize power in that state and restore it to the descendants of its ousted leaders, the Nguyen dynasty (removed from power in 1945). Should the Vietnam war have been successful, the family would have been one of the prime claimants to power." (: Insert the sound of my chortal here. Timothy has viciously attacked me in the templar group at yahoo. He had to admit my Rosamond kin were in a book of peerage and were from Rosemont, the same place that the Prince of Monaco took the title Comte de Rosemont, a title Timothy says Grimaldis do not deserve. Jon Presco "Timothy de Carmain de Perillos" is in reality one Timothy B. Carmain, until recently a clerk at a Californian University, working as an admission administrator for an MBA programme (now apparently working as a set designer in the Los Angeles movie and theatre scene). After trying to lay claim to the title of "de Foix" in the mid 90s, he was quickly nicknamed "de Faux" by expert genealogists; as a result, he tried to lay claim to other estates before, from 2000 onwards, trying to lay claim to the title of "count of Perillos". Carmain is one of several people involved in a growing trend of trying to lay claim to various titles, most often in France (fertile ground as all noble titles were done away with during the French Revolution), in what is in all cases nothing more than a money-making scheme, or as seems to be the case with Carmain, attention seeking. One interesting claim of Carmain is that he claims to be a genealogist, with his area of expertise French medieval genealogy. Amazingly, Carmain has not only never visited France, he is not even able to speak or write French, let alone medieval French. Of course, he has also never visited Perillos. More recently, he has allied himself with people seeking to lay claim to Vietnamese nobility. If it is attention "de Carmaing de Perillos" wants, then we wanted to give him his 3 minutes of glory. Enough said? March 5, 2004: Further developments in the Carmain saga First: one minor error crept into last week's report. The letters from Tim Carmain were not postmarked "London", as they were sent as emails. Also, because of the extreme nature of the complaint, certain local police stations felt ill-equipped to deal with the complaint, which as a result was only officially submitted on March 2, 2004. The complaint was submitted solely against Tim Carmain, and not against other individuals in London (as was understood to be the case, in the assumption we were dealing with letters being posted from there). The police have now begun their enquiry, which will hopefully reveal whether these are the actions of a single person (Timothy Carmain), or are part of a concerted effort to discredit the activities of the Société Perillos and some of its members, particularly André Douzet. Tim Carmain claims he "obtained" his title from the "Imperial government of Vietnam". Vietnam is currently ruled by a communist regime and this "Imperial government" is apparently trying to seize power in that state and restore it to the descendants of its ousted leaders, the Nguyen dynasty (removed from power in 1945). Should the Vietnam war have been successful, the family would have been one of the prime claimants to power. One "colleague" of our count de Perillos in this organisation is one Joseph Crisp II, who is the front man for the Royalist Party of America! George Bush, beware ? he is after your job! Others live in Spain, Eastern Europe and Great Britain (London). In 2002, this Vietnamese family also resurrected the "Imperial Order of the Dragon of Annam", which seems to be a new methodology to gather interest for their cause. Contrary to this modern extravaganza, it should be noted that the official title of Perillos became extinct in the 16th century. The title passed through the lords of Durban, as noted by the research done by Dr. Courrent in the 20th century. Courrent was also the doctor who attended Saunière late in life. After the lords of Durban, another local family passed on the title through their generations. No doubt, they will not enjoy the fact that someone from America is now trying to lay claim to it! As in the case of "Perellos y Roccaful", the title of the grandmaster of the Order of Malta, that title was purchased, and not transmitted by any bloodline. In such cases, the hereditary value of the title is void. Timothy Carmain has invented a series of illusionary descendants, through an alleged female line, which are both unknown to all genuine genealogists, but which by default would prove he has no right to claim the title ? which is specifically reserved for male descendants, as centuries of French history attest. Of course, the "Imperial government of Vietnam" has no authority to distribute this title and might itself be a victim in this sherade. See however http://www.geocities.com/vietmonarchy/imperialstaff.html [link no longer active - SP] and other pages on their site for details of their activities. Finally, we should add that it is not the first time that Timothy Carmain has made wild accusations against our organisation. Last year, he made a complaint with the local authorities that André Douzet was planning to steal the "treasure of Perillos" (nature unspecified) and "disturb the dead". He added that he alone could lay claim to that treasure, this because of his title of count de Perillos! The mind boggles? February 27, 2004: Project Proposal under review Recently, Societe Perillos gave a project proposal of the work it envisions to perform over the next few years to the local authorities. These are currently reviewing the proposal before feeding back. Ideas include an exposition, walks, and restoration/preservation work in and around the village, including the cave Oursu. We will keep you informed of any further developments in our efforts to preserve the village and promote its history. February 27, 2004: Wild accusations from California It is not news, but we think it is interesting information, if only because it seems our previous news item was the direct cause for this development. Following the news that the church of Perillos was pillaged, one "Timothy de Carmaing de Perillos" claimed that André Douzet and the mayor of Opoul-Perillos were behind the crime. Together with an aide in London (United Kingdom), "de Carmaing de Perillos" wrote to all mayors of the department, "informing" them of this allegation, which of course did not hold up as most of the allegation was actually not conform with the known details of the crime ? it needs no further elucidation that the allegation itself is preposterous. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the gendarmerie (national police) were informed, but by the mayor and Mr. Douzet and a complaint was made against "de Carmaing de Perillos" and associates. Because "de Carmaing de Perillos" and aide are not French residents, the complaint will at the moment have no further effect, until either party decides to visit France, when the police will "invite" them to a private audience, or until the nature of their allegations reaches a more serious (in the sense of litigious) nature. February 15, 2004: Perillos church broken into During the first week of February, the Perillos church was broken into. Minor damage to furniture occurred and a cross from the altar were stolen. The authorities believe they know who is behind the crime, but knowing and proving are two different things. As a result of this crime, access to the church out of season can only occur via the Societe Perillos or via the mayor of Opoul- Perillos, provided staff are able to accompany the visitors. Unaccompanied access is no longer possible. Calendar dates This year, May will be another busy period for Perillos. On May 1, there is the Chronodrome experiment. On May 31, the Monday of Pentecost, the village will see the annual mass being celebrated, with the Black Madonna statue present. March 29, 2004: 1666, underground bases and Revelation in Amsterdam The English branch of Société Perillos was the prime mover behind last weekend's Nexus Conference in Amsterdam. No surprise therefore that a few speakers had topics of interest, specifically Stuart Urban and Richard Sauder. Stuart Urban is the writer and director of the movie Revelation, released in 2002, and currently available on video/DVD. This 7 million pound budget movie was filmed in several locations, including Rennes-le-Château. It features the quest throughout the ages to experience the divine nature of Jesus, including figures such as Isaac Newton and the "Grand Master" of the Knights Templar. Urban stated that when filming on location in St John's Co-Cathedral in Valleta, Malta, the team was amazed to see the many alchemical symbols on the tombstones of the Grandmasters of the Order. Of course, Ramon de Perellos y Roccaful was one of these grandmasters. When the church officials realised what they were exactly filming, the crew was asked to stop filming. Urban noted how the movie revealed the first account of this alchemical imagery being used on those graves. The movie itself also revolves around the "loculus", an object specifically made for the movie, which Urban had brought with him to show to the audience and to explain the alchemical imagery that had gone into the design. Richard Sauder has investigated the US government's involvement with underground tunnels and bases. Though focused on the US, Sauder made it clear that such structures exist in all countries ? including France. Of course, you can wonder whether some of the modern enigma of Perillos, such as the mysterious power supply, monitoring stations, etc. might have to do with this, specifically as a military base is nearby. At the speakers' dinner we asked Sauder whether the military had any preference for a specific type of rock formation to build these bases in. He stated limestone and granite were their favourite types of rock, but with money being no issue (costs of an underground base have been estimated at approx. 3 billion dollars), they can be located anywhere. Finally, though Valery Uvarov did not speak on a related subject, he did mention how Cassini, the man behind the Zero Meridian and the French observatory, had observed a mystery celestial object in the sky in 1666? a number well-known to Perillos! He observed it again, and other astronomers in the 17th and 18th century did the same, before the object, possibly another planet in our solar system "hiding" behind the sun, "disappeared". Any further developments on these or other topics will, of course, be reported on as they happen? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Templar-de-Rosemont/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Templar-de-Rosemont-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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