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Subject: ?Timothy de Carmain de Perillos?

"Tim Carmain claims he "obtained" his title from the "Imperial
government of Vietnam". Vietnam is currently ruled by a communist
regime and this "Imperial government" is apparently trying to seize
power in that state and restore it to the descendants of its ousted
leaders, the Nguyen dynasty (removed from power in 1945). Should the
Vietnam war have been successful, the family would have been one of
the prime claimants to power."

(: Insert the sound of my chortal here.

Timothy has viciously attacked me in the templar group at yahoo. He
had to admit my Rosamond kin were in a book of peerage and were from
Rosemont, the same place that the Prince of Monaco took the title
Comte de Rosemont, a title Timothy says Grimaldis do not deserve.

Jon Presco

"Timothy de Carmain de Perillos" is in reality one Timothy B.
Carmain, until recently a clerk at a Californian University, working
as an admission administrator for an MBA programme (now apparently
working as a set designer in the Los Angeles movie and theatre
scene). After trying to lay claim to the title of "de Foix" in the
mid 90s, he was quickly nicknamed "de Faux" by expert genealogists;
as a result, he tried to lay claim to other estates before, from
2000 onwards, trying to lay claim to the title of "count of
Perillos". Carmain is one of several people involved in a growing
trend of trying to lay claim to various titles, most often in France
(fertile ground as all noble titles were done away with during the
French Revolution), in what is in all cases nothing more than a
money-making scheme, or as seems to be the case with Carmain,
attention seeking. One interesting claim of Carmain is that he
claims to be a genealogist, with his area of expertise French
medieval genealogy. Amazingly, Carmain has not only never visited
France, he is not even able to speak or write French, let alone
medieval French. Of course, he has also never visited Perillos. More
recently, he has allied himself with people seeking to lay claim to
Vietnamese nobility. If it is attention "de Carmaing de Perillos"
wants, then we wanted to give him his 3 minutes of glory. Enough
said?

March 5, 2004: Further developments in the Carmain saga

First: one minor error crept into last week's report. The letters
from Tim Carmain were not postmarked "London", as they were sent as
emails.

Also, because of the extreme nature of the complaint, certain local
police stations felt ill-equipped to deal with the complaint, which
as a result was only officially submitted on March 2, 2004. The
complaint was submitted solely against Tim Carmain, and not against
other individuals in London (as was understood to be the case, in
the assumption we were dealing with letters being posted from
there). The police have now begun their enquiry, which will
hopefully reveal whether these are the actions of a single person
(Timothy Carmain), or are part of a concerted effort to discredit
the activities of the Société Perillos and some of its members,
particularly André Douzet.

Tim Carmain claims he "obtained" his title from the "Imperial
government of Vietnam". Vietnam is currently ruled by a communist
regime and this "Imperial government" is apparently trying to seize
power in that state and restore it to the descendants of its ousted
leaders, the Nguyen dynasty (removed from power in 1945). Should the
Vietnam war have been successful, the family would have been one of
the prime claimants to power.

One "colleague" of our count de Perillos in this organisation is one
Joseph Crisp II, who is the front man for the Royalist Party of
America! George Bush, beware ? he is after your job! Others live in
Spain, Eastern Europe and Great Britain (London). In 2002, this
Vietnamese family also resurrected the "Imperial Order of the Dragon
of Annam", which seems to be a new methodology to gather interest
for their cause.

Contrary to this modern extravaganza, it should be noted that the
official title of Perillos became extinct in the 16th century. The
title passed through the lords of Durban, as noted by the research
done by Dr. Courrent in the 20th century. Courrent was also the
doctor who attended Saunière late in life. After the lords of
Durban, another local family passed on the title through their
generations. No doubt, they will not enjoy the fact that someone
from America is now trying to lay claim to it!

As in the case of "Perellos y Roccaful", the title of the
grandmaster of the Order of Malta, that title was purchased, and not
transmitted by any bloodline. In such cases, the hereditary value of
the title is void. Timothy Carmain has invented a series of
illusionary descendants, through an alleged female line, which are
both unknown to all genuine genealogists, but which by default would
prove he has no right to claim the title ? which is specifically
reserved for male descendants, as centuries of French history attest.
Of course, the "Imperial government of Vietnam" has no authority to
distribute this title and might itself be a victim in this sherade.
See however http://www.geocities.com/vietmonarchy/imperialstaff.html
[link no longer active - SP] and other pages on their site for
details of their activities.

Finally, we should add that it is not the first time that Timothy
Carmain has made wild accusations against our organisation. Last
year, he made a complaint with the local authorities that André
Douzet was planning to steal the "treasure of Perillos" (nature
unspecified) and "disturb the dead". He added that he alone could
lay claim to that treasure, this because of his title of count de
Perillos! The mind boggles?


February 27, 2004: Project Proposal under review

Recently, Societe Perillos gave a project proposal of the work it
envisions to perform over the next few years to the local
authorities. These are currently reviewing the proposal before
feeding back. Ideas include an exposition, walks, and
restoration/preservation work in and around the village, including
the cave Oursu. We will keep you informed of any further
developments in our efforts to preserve the village and promote its
history.


February 27, 2004: Wild accusations from California

It is not news, but we think it is interesting information, if only
because it seems our previous news item was the direct cause for
this development. Following the news that the church of Perillos was
pillaged, one "Timothy de Carmaing de Perillos" claimed that André
Douzet and the mayor of Opoul-Perillos were behind the crime.
Together with an aide in London (United Kingdom), "de Carmaing de
Perillos" wrote to all mayors of the department, "informing" them of
this allegation, which of course did not hold up as most of the
allegation was actually not conform with the known details of the
crime ? it needs no further elucidation that the allegation itself
is preposterous.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, the gendarmerie (national police) were
informed, but by the mayor and Mr. Douzet and a complaint was made
against "de Carmaing de Perillos" and associates. Because "de
Carmaing de Perillos" and aide are not French residents, the
complaint will at the moment have no further effect, until either
party decides to visit France, when the police will "invite" them to
a private audience, or until the nature of their allegations reaches
a more serious (in the sense of litigious) nature.



February 15, 2004: Perillos church broken into

During the first week of February, the Perillos church was broken
into. Minor damage to furniture occurred and a cross from the altar
were stolen. The authorities believe they know who is behind the
crime, but knowing and proving are two different things.

As a result of this crime, access to the church out of season can
only occur via the Societe Perillos or via the mayor of Opoul-
Perillos, provided staff are able to accompany the visitors.
Unaccompanied access is no longer possible.

Calendar dates

This year, May will be another busy period for Perillos. On May 1,
there is the Chronodrome experiment. On May 31, the Monday of
Pentecost, the village will see the annual mass being celebrated,
with the Black Madonna statue present.

March 29, 2004: 1666, underground bases and Revelation in Amsterdam

The English branch of Société Perillos was the prime mover behind
last weekend's Nexus Conference in Amsterdam. No surprise therefore
that a few speakers had topics of interest, specifically Stuart
Urban and Richard Sauder. Stuart Urban is the writer and director of
the movie Revelation, released in 2002, and currently available on
video/DVD. This 7 million pound budget movie was filmed in several
locations, including Rennes-le-Château. It features the quest
throughout the ages to experience the divine nature of Jesus,
including figures such as Isaac Newton and the "Grand Master" of the
Knights Templar. Urban stated that when filming on location in St
John's Co-Cathedral in Valleta, Malta, the team was amazed to see
the many alchemical symbols on the tombstones of the Grandmasters of
the Order. Of course, Ramon de Perellos y Roccaful was one of these
grandmasters. When the church officials realised what they were
exactly filming, the crew was asked to stop filming. Urban noted how
the movie revealed the first account of this alchemical imagery
being used on those graves. The movie itself also revolves around
the "loculus", an object specifically made for the movie, which
Urban had brought with him to show to the audience and to explain
the alchemical imagery that had gone into the design.

Richard Sauder has investigated the US government's involvement with
underground tunnels and bases. Though focused on the US, Sauder made
it clear that such structures exist in all countries ? including
France. Of course, you can wonder whether some of the modern enigma
of Perillos, such as the mysterious power supply, monitoring
stations, etc. might have to do with this, specifically as a
military base is nearby. At the speakers' dinner we asked Sauder
whether the military had any preference for a specific type of rock
formation to build these bases in. He stated limestone and granite
were their favourite types of rock, but with money being no issue
(costs of an underground base have been estimated at approx. 3
billion dollars), they can be located anywhere.

Finally, though Valery Uvarov did not speak on a related subject, he
did mention how Cassini, the man behind the Zero Meridian and the
French observatory, had observed a mystery celestial object in the
sky in 1666? a number well-known to Perillos! He observed it again,
and other astronomers in the 17th and 18th century did the same,
before the object, possibly another planet in our solar
system "hiding" behind the sun, "disappeared".

Any further developments on these or other topics will, of course,
be reported on as they happen?






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