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Rosamond Weavers: msg#00017

culture.templar.rosemont

Subject: Rosamond Weavers

"Paul Smith" wrote:

> Well, the authors of the Rosicrucian Manifestoes were anti-
Catholic and one of them was later pin-pointed as being a Lutheran
> theologian: Johann Valentin Andreae - who possibly could have
heard of a certain Martin Luther. Taking this further, Andreae could
> possibly have known that Luther's Heraldic Device was a Rose upon
a Cross. And how do our patently Roman Catholic Knights Templar
figure in all of this? And was Dante a Protestant?
>
> Paul Smith

Here is the Rosamond family crest showing a cross, made up of a
weaver's needle, surrounded by roses. Godstalk Rosemondt
corresponded with Erasmus who some say "Laid the egg that Luther
hatched." The Protestant heresay was not the first. Did weavers join
the Templars?

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rosamondgenealogy/

The Waldensian weavers, the Lollards, and other religious groups
formed by weavers led to the Reformation and the founding of the
Protestant church. The Cathars were weavers, and are associated with
the Knight Templars. Some of Rosamond/Rougemont Recusants in
Spitalfields were forced to flee to America and Canada where they
founded historic weaving mills and the city of Altemonte. There is a
weaver museum there located on Rosamond St. My Rosamond kin may be
the most ongoing religiously persectuted family in history.

In 1970 I delcared myself a Nazarene Pre-Raphalite Artist after
Rossetti, and introduced their beautiful images to my sister. One of
the paintings that made her famous was titled 'Denom and Silk'. The
artist Rosamond may be a descendant from Cathar Weavers.

Jon Presco

Furthermore, the itinerant CLOTH MERCHANTS who carried the woven
silks of Byzantium and the east to the eager markets of the west
were the missionaries who secretly propagated the religion of the
Paulicians and Bogomils. The Cathars were noted as WEAVERS.
Contemporaries frequently designated
them "Texerant", "Textors", "Tisserants" -- all of which meant
simply WEAVERS. The parallel with the PAGAN CITY of Thyatira is
complete.

"Convincing or specific evidence that the Templars were Cathars
cannot have existed, or the prosecution would have used it, as it
did use the rather technical charge that the officers in chapter
absolved the brothers after their confession of sin as though the
officers had been priests. It seems unlikely that the Templars would
have pursued a way of salvation other than that offered by the
Church."

http://www.about-bristol.co.uk/chu-13.asp

Recusants in Spitalfields

A count of `recusants' (those refusing to submit to the authority of
the Church of England) was made in the East End in 1678. The number
included 30 from Spitalfields, 15 from Bethnal Green, and nine from
Wapping/Stepney. Most were apparently foreign. Individuals summonsed
in 1678-9 included `two weavers of Spitalfields with foreign
surnames, a victualler of Mile End, and a framework-knitter and a
weaver of Bethnal Green'. Church pronounced to be sinful. The
recusants were obliged to fly from their homes and conceal
themselves.

"The silk manufacture was introduced into Ireland from the French
colony at Spitalfields. Portarlington became noted for its schools,
great numbers of pupils being attracted by the opportunity of
learning French, which was the common language of the town."

. The Eastern side of Bethnal Green became a well-known centre for
silk weaving and my family were originally silk weavers. The trade
continued until the 2nd World War during which Bethnal Green was
virtually destroyed by bombing. There are, however, still some silk
weavers' cottages standing in the Cheshire Street area. ("Huguenot
Weavers Houses in Spitalfields" East London Papers, Volume 1, Number
1, - April 1958) One of the Bethnal Green Huguenot silk weavers, one
George Dorée, was the most skilled of the silk workers and was
responsible for the weaving of the coronation robe for King Edward
VII. My old school, Parmiters', that was situated in Bethnal Green
was founded in 1682 by one Thomas Parmiter, a Huguenot silk
merchant.

The Historic Sites and Monuments Board of Canada recommended
that, "the Rosamond Woollen Company Mill complex is of national
historic and architectural significance and should be commemorated
by means of a plaque."

The Minister of the Environment, Tom McMillan, approved the
recommendation. The commemoration of the mill complex with a plaque
will take place sometime in the future.

Rosamond is the most important name in the history of the textile
industry in the Mississippi Valley.
http://tinyurl.com/74r2k

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rosamondgenealogy/
http://tinyurl.com/b5bcl
http://tinyurl.com/a38v8
http://tinyurl.com/du3c2
http://www.mernick.co.uk/thhol/spital4.html
http://tinyurl.com/7egpu
http://members.lycos.co.uk/brisray/bristol/btmpl1.htm
http://spaightwoodgalleries.com/Pages/Kollwitz2_Weavers.html
http://members.aol.com/cogwriter/thyatira.htm

"Our Past is Looming"
3 Rosamond Street East, P.O. Box 784 Almonte. Ontario K0A 1A0
Tel: (613) 256-3754. Fax: (613) 256-1307
email: textile@xxxxxxxx


http://www.textilemuseum.mississippimills.com/
http://www.lca-baltic.lv/Rosamond.htm

Two Waldensian weavers, Hans Kager & Hans Speyser, demanded the
right to be served communion "in both kinds" (i.e. wine as well as
bread). A riot ensued and the two men were arrested. They were
immediately put on trial and beheaded in secret so as to avoid
public protest.


Persecution

"The infamous INQUISITION was then set up to complete the job by
eliminating religious objections. Papal bull decreed severe
punishment against any person suspected of even sympathizing
with "heretics." Confiscations, imprisonments, burnings and every
imaginable form of persecution continued for more than a hundred
years. Thousands died. In the city of Montsegur alone, 200 persons
were burned in one day...

"As early as 1206, Innocent had begun to send out his own proven men
by two's, poorly clad and living austerely, to counteract the
Waldensian "barbes" by their own methods. He also gave official
standing to the "Humiliated" who had remained within the Catholic
Church. In 1209 he authorized a rival "Waldensian" movement into
which he hoped to entice many of the members of God's Church. It was
an official organ of the Catholic Church, headed by Durand of
Huesca, a Spanish ex-Waldense who had submitted to the pope in 1206
at one of the meetings in Languedoc. A similar arm called "Poor
Catholics" was founded in Lombardy by Bernard Primo, another ex-
Waldensian. Outwardly, the pope's measures had but little success
against God's Church. But within the body, they fostered an
increasing sickness...While the whole world was drunk on her false
doctrine and "Jezebel" herself drunk on the blood of God's servants
(Rev. 17:2, 6), the persecuted, suffering true Church IN
THE "WILDERNESS" saw her clearly revealed in all her filthiness. In
the Middle Ages, this church sank to its lowest DEPTHS (Rev. 2:24).
Careful, reputable, scholarly historians bear unanimous witness of
her scandal and sin which BLASPHEMED GOD'S NAME. Her "celibate"
priests begat numerous offspring. Popes filled their palaces with
harlots and thieves...

"On the Waldensian emblem or seal were seven stars (Rev. 1:20).
Directly below and POINTING AT THE FOURTH STAR was a lighted lamp
representing the then active Thyatira Church. Around the rim was the
Latin motto LUX LUCET IN TENEBRIS -- "a light shines in darkness"
(see Mat. 5:14-16). God's people KNEW they were the Thyatira Church!
They must also have known who "Jezebel" was. One of their oldest
surviving books, the "Book of Antichrist", equates the Roman papacy
and priests with Babylon (Isa. 47), the little horn of the fourth
beast (Dan. 7), the WHORE (Rev. 17-18), the man of sin, the son of
perdition (II Thes. 2), false prophets, lying teachers (II Pet. 2),
spirit of error (I John 4), clouds without water, trees without
leaves (Jude), ministers of DARKNESS, Egyptians, BALAAMITES, etc.!
Half of Jesus' message to Thyatira, the longest of the seven, is
devoted to warning against "Jezebel." Yet in spite of the warning,
many did fall into her trap!...

"Gregory IX issued another bull against the Waldenses in 1231. From
1231 to 1233 a general persecution raged in Germany, cutting short
the Work in Holland. By 1235, persecution on a large scale began at
Milan, original seat of the Lombard Waldenses. The archbishop "razed
their school" -- apparently the College -- but LEFT THE PEOPLE FREE!
On the French side of the Alps, killing and burning reached the
Valley Louise in 1238. The Thyatira WORK was through! (LESSON 51
(1968) AMBASSADOR COLLEGE BIBLE CORRESPONDENCE COURSE "And the woman
fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place ..." Rev. 12:6).

The In-Between Portion of Thyatira

"Most of the French Waldenses had already joined the Italians in the
valleys of the Cottian Alps. More than a century of persecution by
the Inquisition destroyed or dispersed the remainder. The valleys,
overpopulated, sent colonists to Calabria and Apulia, where about
1380 the chief Waldensian leader dwelt. In the mid-13th century they
had already adopted the name of Vallenses ("Vaudois" in French)
meaning "people of the valleys," because, as they said, they "dwelt
in a vale of tears." Later they regarded it as equivalent to
Waldenses. Forgotten was the connection with Waldo of this name
given them by the world. All but forgotten, too, the name "Church of
God"!...

"Elsewhere, too, Waldenses were greatly persecuted about 1310-1330,
and again about 1375. In the earlier period, one, Echard, martyred
many in town after town in Germany. Then, overcome by the truth and
himself converted, he began to preach the very gospel he once hated.
He too in the end was hunted down and burned. About this time others
were martyred, driven into hiding or scattered as far as Hungary and
Transylvania by a Bohemian Inquisition. Many disciples of Bohemian
teachers were discovered in Saxony and Pomerania about 1390.

Waldenses from Picardy fled into Poland. During the century, the
SCATTERED groups lost contact with the valleys. Many carnal-minded
individuals attended Mass, pretending in every way to be good
Catholics while continuing to teach their children what remained of
their own doctrine. Cathars in Germany disappeared in this century
also. But their tell-tale doctrines reappeared among the late
Waldenses, who ceased proper ordination, began to require long
periods of probation before baptism, etc. After the Reformation, in
every area where such Waldenses had been known previously to exist,
numbers of "baptists" suddenly appear. Remember, the original
Waldenses before they became corrupted were in no way Protestant.
The doctrine of salvation by "faith alone" cannot be found among the
original Waldenses. The spirit of Protestantism was utterly foreign
to them, as to God's Church in all ages." "(LESSON 51 (1968)

AMBASSADOR COLLEGE BIBLE CORRESPONDENCE COURSE "And the woman fled
into the wilderness, where she hath a place ..." Rev. 12:6).
Similarly, John Ogwyn wrote, "In the beginning of the twelfth
century, there was a revitalization of the Truth with the raising up
of the next phase of the Church under the leadership of Peter de
Bruys in southeastern France. This stage in church history is
characterized by the Church at Thyatira in Revelation 2. The
Piedmont valleys of southeastern France were described by Pope Urban
II, in 1096, as being "infested with heresy." It was from one of
these valleys, the Valley Louise, that Peter de Bruys arose in 1104
and began to preach repentance. He gained many followers among the
Cathars, initially, and later among the general public. The Cathars
(meaning "puritans"), among whom de Bruys originally preached, were
remnants of earlier Bogomil settlements. However, by this time, most
had accepted a variety of new and strange doctrines and were quite
divided among themselves. His preaching, and that of his successors,
brought about a revitalized Church during the first half of the
twelfth century in the valleys of southeastern France. De Bruys
professed to restore Christianity to its original purity. At the end
of a ministry of about 20 years, he was burned at the stake. In
rapid succession after him, there arose two other strong ministers,
Arnold and Henri. After the death of Henri in 1149, the Church
languished and seemed to go into eclipse. A few years later a
wealthy merchant in Lyons, Peter Waldo, was struck down by an
unusual circumstance and began preaching the Gospel in 1161. After
being shocked into contemplating the real meaning of life as a
result of the sudden death of a close friend, Waldo obtained a copy
of the Scriptures and began studying God's Word. He was soon shocked
to find that the Scriptures taught the very opposite of much of what
he had learned during his Catholic upbringing.

http://members.aol.com/cogwriter/thyatira.htm



Recusants in Spitalfields

The part which was played by the French refugees was a much more
distinguished one. They came over in great numbers after the
Revolution, and are said to have comprised an unusually large
proportion of members of the higher classes. The Irish Parliament
passed in 1692 and renewed in 1697 an Act giving them perfect
freedom of worship. There were no less than three French
congregations established in Dublin. There were congregations in
Cork, Waterford, Carlow, Kilkenny, and Lisburn; and Portarlington,
which was built on land granted to Ruvigny, the Earl of Galway,
became in a great degree a French settlement. Most of the exiles
conformed to the Established Church, and translated its liturgy into
their own language. They threw themselves very actively into every
form of industry, and identified themselves thoroughly with Irish
interests. As we have already seen, the first literary journal in
Ireland was edited by a French pastor, and the first florists'
society was established by refugees. The linen manufacture, which is
the most important branch of Irish industry, owed to them very much
of its extension and prosperity. The silk manufacture was introduced
into Ireland from the French colony at Spitalfields. Portarlington
became noted for its schools, great numbers of pupils being
attracted by the opportunity of learning French, which was the
common language of the town. Among [345] the refugees who ultimately
took up their abode in Ireland was Abbadie, who became Dean of
Killaloe, and whose treatise on the truth of the Christian religion
was pronounced by Pitt to be the most powerful defence of the faith.

3. It is probable that one of the sons, probably Nathaniel, died in
the American War of Independence. There is also little doubt that
one of the other sons, I am not sure which, finished up in Sandwich
which was then a very important port on the South coast of England
(one of the Cinque Ports (2) ) where he started a silk weaving
business. No doubt silk would have been imported into Sandwich.
Eventually the business moved to Bethnal Green (then known as Bednal
Green) a small village that was situated about a mile to the East of
the City of London boundary wall. As London grew so Bethnal Green
was eventually incorporated as a London Borough of which my father
was one time Mayor. There is quite a large family of Rosamonds in
London, including my eldest son and his family but after I remarried
and moved North I lost touch with them.





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