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"Paul Smith" wrote: > Well, the authors of the Rosicrucian Manifestoes were anti- Catholic and one of them was later pin-pointed as being a Lutheran > theologian: Johann Valentin Andreae - who possibly could have heard of a certain Martin Luther. Taking this further, Andreae could > possibly have known that Luther's Heraldic Device was a Rose upon a Cross. And how do our patently Roman Catholic Knights Templar figure in all of this? And was Dante a Protestant? > > Paul Smith Here is the Rosamond family crest showing a cross, made up of a weaver's needle, surrounded by roses. Godstalk Rosemondt corresponded with Erasmus who some say "Laid the egg that Luther hatched." The Protestant heresay was not the first. Did weavers join the Templars? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rosamondgenealogy/ The Waldensian weavers, the Lollards, and other religious groups formed by weavers led to the Reformation and the founding of the Protestant church. The Cathars were weavers, and are associated with the Knight Templars. Some of Rosamond/Rougemont Recusants in Spitalfields were forced to flee to America and Canada where they founded historic weaving mills and the city of Altemonte. There is a weaver museum there located on Rosamond St. My Rosamond kin may be the most ongoing religiously persectuted family in history. In 1970 I delcared myself a Nazarene Pre-Raphalite Artist after Rossetti, and introduced their beautiful images to my sister. One of the paintings that made her famous was titled 'Denom and Silk'. The artist Rosamond may be a descendant from Cathar Weavers. Jon Presco Furthermore, the itinerant CLOTH MERCHANTS who carried the woven silks of Byzantium and the east to the eager markets of the west were the missionaries who secretly propagated the religion of the Paulicians and Bogomils. The Cathars were noted as WEAVERS. Contemporaries frequently designated them "Texerant", "Textors", "Tisserants" -- all of which meant simply WEAVERS. The parallel with the PAGAN CITY of Thyatira is complete. "Convincing or specific evidence that the Templars were Cathars cannot have existed, or the prosecution would have used it, as it did use the rather technical charge that the officers in chapter absolved the brothers after their confession of sin as though the officers had been priests. It seems unlikely that the Templars would have pursued a way of salvation other than that offered by the Church." http://www.about-bristol.co.uk/chu-13.asp Recusants in Spitalfields A count of `recusants' (those refusing to submit to the authority of the Church of England) was made in the East End in 1678. The number included 30 from Spitalfields, 15 from Bethnal Green, and nine from Wapping/Stepney. Most were apparently foreign. Individuals summonsed in 1678-9 included `two weavers of Spitalfields with foreign surnames, a victualler of Mile End, and a framework-knitter and a weaver of Bethnal Green'. Church pronounced to be sinful. The recusants were obliged to fly from their homes and conceal themselves. "The silk manufacture was introduced into Ireland from the French colony at Spitalfields. Portarlington became noted for its schools, great numbers of pupils being attracted by the opportunity of learning French, which was the common language of the town." . The Eastern side of Bethnal Green became a well-known centre for silk weaving and my family were originally silk weavers. The trade continued until the 2nd World War during which Bethnal Green was virtually destroyed by bombing. There are, however, still some silk weavers' cottages standing in the Cheshire Street area. ("Huguenot Weavers Houses in Spitalfields" East London Papers, Volume 1, Number 1, - April 1958) One of the Bethnal Green Huguenot silk weavers, one George Dorée, was the most skilled of the silk workers and was responsible for the weaving of the coronation robe for King Edward VII. My old school, Parmiters', that was situated in Bethnal Green was founded in 1682 by one Thomas Parmiter, a Huguenot silk merchant. The Historic Sites and Monuments Board of Canada recommended that, "the Rosamond Woollen Company Mill complex is of national historic and architectural significance and should be commemorated by means of a plaque." The Minister of the Environment, Tom McMillan, approved the recommendation. The commemoration of the mill complex with a plaque will take place sometime in the future. Rosamond is the most important name in the history of the textile industry in the Mississippi Valley. http://tinyurl.com/74r2k http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rosamondgenealogy/ http://tinyurl.com/b5bcl http://tinyurl.com/a38v8 http://tinyurl.com/du3c2 http://www.mernick.co.uk/thhol/spital4.html http://tinyurl.com/7egpu http://members.lycos.co.uk/brisray/bristol/btmpl1.htm http://spaightwoodgalleries.com/Pages/Kollwitz2_Weavers.html http://members.aol.com/cogwriter/thyatira.htm "Our Past is Looming" 3 Rosamond Street East, P.O. Box 784 Almonte. Ontario K0A 1A0 Tel: (613) 256-3754. Fax: (613) 256-1307 email: textile@xxxxxxxx http://www.textilemuseum.mississippimills.com/ http://www.lca-baltic.lv/Rosamond.htm Two Waldensian weavers, Hans Kager & Hans Speyser, demanded the right to be served communion "in both kinds" (i.e. wine as well as bread). A riot ensued and the two men were arrested. They were immediately put on trial and beheaded in secret so as to avoid public protest. Persecution "The infamous INQUISITION was then set up to complete the job by eliminating religious objections. Papal bull decreed severe punishment against any person suspected of even sympathizing with "heretics." Confiscations, imprisonments, burnings and every imaginable form of persecution continued for more than a hundred years. Thousands died. In the city of Montsegur alone, 200 persons were burned in one day... "As early as 1206, Innocent had begun to send out his own proven men by two's, poorly clad and living austerely, to counteract the Waldensian "barbes" by their own methods. He also gave official standing to the "Humiliated" who had remained within the Catholic Church. In 1209 he authorized a rival "Waldensian" movement into which he hoped to entice many of the members of God's Church. It was an official organ of the Catholic Church, headed by Durand of Huesca, a Spanish ex-Waldense who had submitted to the pope in 1206 at one of the meetings in Languedoc. A similar arm called "Poor Catholics" was founded in Lombardy by Bernard Primo, another ex- Waldensian. Outwardly, the pope's measures had but little success against God's Church. But within the body, they fostered an increasing sickness...While the whole world was drunk on her false doctrine and "Jezebel" herself drunk on the blood of God's servants (Rev. 17:2, 6), the persecuted, suffering true Church IN THE "WILDERNESS" saw her clearly revealed in all her filthiness. In the Middle Ages, this church sank to its lowest DEPTHS (Rev. 2:24). Careful, reputable, scholarly historians bear unanimous witness of her scandal and sin which BLASPHEMED GOD'S NAME. Her "celibate" priests begat numerous offspring. Popes filled their palaces with harlots and thieves... "On the Waldensian emblem or seal were seven stars (Rev. 1:20). Directly below and POINTING AT THE FOURTH STAR was a lighted lamp representing the then active Thyatira Church. Around the rim was the Latin motto LUX LUCET IN TENEBRIS -- "a light shines in darkness" (see Mat. 5:14-16). God's people KNEW they were the Thyatira Church! They must also have known who "Jezebel" was. One of their oldest surviving books, the "Book of Antichrist", equates the Roman papacy and priests with Babylon (Isa. 47), the little horn of the fourth beast (Dan. 7), the WHORE (Rev. 17-18), the man of sin, the son of perdition (II Thes. 2), false prophets, lying teachers (II Pet. 2), spirit of error (I John 4), clouds without water, trees without leaves (Jude), ministers of DARKNESS, Egyptians, BALAAMITES, etc.! Half of Jesus' message to Thyatira, the longest of the seven, is devoted to warning against "Jezebel." Yet in spite of the warning, many did fall into her trap!... "Gregory IX issued another bull against the Waldenses in 1231. From 1231 to 1233 a general persecution raged in Germany, cutting short the Work in Holland. By 1235, persecution on a large scale began at Milan, original seat of the Lombard Waldenses. The archbishop "razed their school" -- apparently the College -- but LEFT THE PEOPLE FREE! On the French side of the Alps, killing and burning reached the Valley Louise in 1238. The Thyatira WORK was through! (LESSON 51 (1968) AMBASSADOR COLLEGE BIBLE CORRESPONDENCE COURSE "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place ..." Rev. 12:6). The In-Between Portion of Thyatira "Most of the French Waldenses had already joined the Italians in the valleys of the Cottian Alps. More than a century of persecution by the Inquisition destroyed or dispersed the remainder. The valleys, overpopulated, sent colonists to Calabria and Apulia, where about 1380 the chief Waldensian leader dwelt. In the mid-13th century they had already adopted the name of Vallenses ("Vaudois" in French) meaning "people of the valleys," because, as they said, they "dwelt in a vale of tears." Later they regarded it as equivalent to Waldenses. Forgotten was the connection with Waldo of this name given them by the world. All but forgotten, too, the name "Church of God"!... "Elsewhere, too, Waldenses were greatly persecuted about 1310-1330, and again about 1375. In the earlier period, one, Echard, martyred many in town after town in Germany. Then, overcome by the truth and himself converted, he began to preach the very gospel he once hated. He too in the end was hunted down and burned. About this time others were martyred, driven into hiding or scattered as far as Hungary and Transylvania by a Bohemian Inquisition. Many disciples of Bohemian teachers were discovered in Saxony and Pomerania about 1390. Waldenses from Picardy fled into Poland. During the century, the SCATTERED groups lost contact with the valleys. Many carnal-minded individuals attended Mass, pretending in every way to be good Catholics while continuing to teach their children what remained of their own doctrine. Cathars in Germany disappeared in this century also. But their tell-tale doctrines reappeared among the late Waldenses, who ceased proper ordination, began to require long periods of probation before baptism, etc. After the Reformation, in every area where such Waldenses had been known previously to exist, numbers of "baptists" suddenly appear. Remember, the original Waldenses before they became corrupted were in no way Protestant. The doctrine of salvation by "faith alone" cannot be found among the original Waldenses. The spirit of Protestantism was utterly foreign to them, as to God's Church in all ages." "(LESSON 51 (1968) AMBASSADOR COLLEGE BIBLE CORRESPONDENCE COURSE "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place ..." Rev. 12:6). Similarly, John Ogwyn wrote, "In the beginning of the twelfth century, there was a revitalization of the Truth with the raising up of the next phase of the Church under the leadership of Peter de Bruys in southeastern France. This stage in church history is characterized by the Church at Thyatira in Revelation 2. The Piedmont valleys of southeastern France were described by Pope Urban II, in 1096, as being "infested with heresy." It was from one of these valleys, the Valley Louise, that Peter de Bruys arose in 1104 and began to preach repentance. He gained many followers among the Cathars, initially, and later among the general public. The Cathars (meaning "puritans"), among whom de Bruys originally preached, were remnants of earlier Bogomil settlements. However, by this time, most had accepted a variety of new and strange doctrines and were quite divided among themselves. His preaching, and that of his successors, brought about a revitalized Church during the first half of the twelfth century in the valleys of southeastern France. De Bruys professed to restore Christianity to its original purity. At the end of a ministry of about 20 years, he was burned at the stake. In rapid succession after him, there arose two other strong ministers, Arnold and Henri. After the death of Henri in 1149, the Church languished and seemed to go into eclipse. A few years later a wealthy merchant in Lyons, Peter Waldo, was struck down by an unusual circumstance and began preaching the Gospel in 1161. After being shocked into contemplating the real meaning of life as a result of the sudden death of a close friend, Waldo obtained a copy of the Scriptures and began studying God's Word. He was soon shocked to find that the Scriptures taught the very opposite of much of what he had learned during his Catholic upbringing. http://members.aol.com/cogwriter/thyatira.htm Recusants in Spitalfields The part which was played by the French refugees was a much more distinguished one. They came over in great numbers after the Revolution, and are said to have comprised an unusually large proportion of members of the higher classes. The Irish Parliament passed in 1692 and renewed in 1697 an Act giving them perfect freedom of worship. There were no less than three French congregations established in Dublin. There were congregations in Cork, Waterford, Carlow, Kilkenny, and Lisburn; and Portarlington, which was built on land granted to Ruvigny, the Earl of Galway, became in a great degree a French settlement. Most of the exiles conformed to the Established Church, and translated its liturgy into their own language. They threw themselves very actively into every form of industry, and identified themselves thoroughly with Irish interests. As we have already seen, the first literary journal in Ireland was edited by a French pastor, and the first florists' society was established by refugees. The linen manufacture, which is the most important branch of Irish industry, owed to them very much of its extension and prosperity. The silk manufacture was introduced into Ireland from the French colony at Spitalfields. Portarlington became noted for its schools, great numbers of pupils being attracted by the opportunity of learning French, which was the common language of the town. Among [345] the refugees who ultimately took up their abode in Ireland was Abbadie, who became Dean of Killaloe, and whose treatise on the truth of the Christian religion was pronounced by Pitt to be the most powerful defence of the faith. 3. It is probable that one of the sons, probably Nathaniel, died in the American War of Independence. There is also little doubt that one of the other sons, I am not sure which, finished up in Sandwich which was then a very important port on the South coast of England (one of the Cinque Ports (2) ) where he started a silk weaving business. No doubt silk would have been imported into Sandwich. Eventually the business moved to Bethnal Green (then known as Bednal Green) a small village that was situated about a mile to the East of the City of London boundary wall. As London grew so Bethnal Green was eventually incorporated as a London Borough of which my father was one time Mayor. There is quite a large family of Rosamonds in London, including my eldest son and his family but after I remarried and moved North I lost touch with them. Yahoo! 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