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--- In rosamond@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "John Presco" <prosemont@xxxx> wrote: It is with great honor that I announce my Quest is complete. With this information my family name will forever be linked with the Grail Legends. I have found a Grail author that may have lived in Rougemont, or the Cluney monestary nearby. This is authentic. Jon --- In Rosamond-Presco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Presco Jon <prosemont@xxxx> wrote: Robert de Boron was the first to identify Sir Percival's Grail as the Last Supper vessel used by St. Joseph of Arimathea to collect the blood of Christ from the Cross. Robert's 'Didot Perceval' has also been titled 'Prose Parceval. He may have lived in Rougemont Castle, or the castle that is missing in a trio of castles making up the smallest canton in France. Robert was commissioned to write his Authurian tales by Walter (Gauthier) de Montbeliard, who was a member of the Ferrette family who were also the Lords of Rougemont. In a couple of genealogies the names Frederick and Ulrich are the same. Here is the latest genealogy that connects the Rosamond family with the Rougemonts. There is yet to appear a direct link to my grandfather, Royal Rosamond, but there are many missing links as the Rougemonts set out into the American wilderness, and no doubt did not keep good records, or find a City Hall nearby to help them do so. What is truly exciting, is that Robert's Parceval identifies his father as being Alan de Gros ('The Fat') who I am all but convinced is kin to William de Gros the Duke of Albemarle. This family in England is kin to the Blois, the Dukes of Champagne and Troye who also hold the title 'Count of Albemarle'. They are kin to Anne of Kievs, and thus the Kings of France, and King Stephen of England. They are of course kin to Mary of Champagne and Fair Rosamond, for the Clifford family came to own Skipton castle of Albemarle. It was to the Dutchess of Albemarle that the story of Pharamond and Rosamonde was dedicated. From the Dutchess would spring the first British Colony in America built in South Carolina where the Rougemonts owned a plantation, the city therein named Albemarle, later changed to Charlestown. Here is the Rosamond/Rougemont genealogy that is proving to be the most exciting genalogy - ever! Robert has his Parceval taking insturction from the Holy Ghost that has been title the 'Rosa Mundi'. John Presco Copyright 2003 http://www.gbnf.com/genealog3/crain1/html/d0034/I8647.HTM http://www.eie.gr/ibe/crusades/villehardouin.htm "ROBERT DE BORON Despite being famous for his cycle of Arthurian Romances centred around the Holy Grail, next to nothing is known about the Burgundian known as Robert de Boron. His works reveal that he was a poet in the employ of one Gautier, who has been identified as Gautier de Montbeliard, the Lord of Montfaucon. Robert presumably hailed from Boron - a small village about fifteen miles from Montbeliard (Mount-of-Balls) where he appears to have been a cleric of some sort. In 1202, his master is known to have taken part in the Fourth Crusade from which he never returned, dying abroad ten years later. So Robert's Arthurian trilogy must have been written in the very late 12th century, probably after the Glastonbury monks' 1191 "discovery" of King Arthur's body, since Robert's 'Vales of Avalon' would seem to be in Somerset. He wrote Le Roman de I'Estoire dou Graal (also called Joseph d'Arimathie), the Merlin and, almost certainly, a version of Sir Percivale's story usually known as the Didot-Perceval after an early owner of the manuscript. They were originally put down in octosyllabic verse but only the first named work and 504 lines of the Merlin survive in this form. Luckily an anonymous admirer transcribed a prose version of each around the 1220s. These were the inspiration for the later Vulgate Cycle of Arthurian tales. Robert was the first to identify Sir Percivale's Grail as the Last Supper vessel used by St. Joseph of Arimathea to collect the blood of Christ from the Cross. ""And then Perceval came to the king and said: "Sire, know that Alain li Gros, who was your son, was my father." And when the Fisher King had heard him he began again to rejoice greatly and said: "Dear grandson, I am very glad for your coming." Thereupon he knelt and rendered thanks to Our Lord, and then he took Perceval by the hand and led him before his vessel and said: "Dear grandson, know that this is the lance with which Longinus struck Jesus Christ on the cross, and this vessel that is called the Grail, know that this is the blood that Joseph caught from His wounds which flowed to the earth, and the reason that we call it the Grail is that it is agreeable to all worthy men and to all those who can stay in its fellowship; nor will it in its fellowship permit sin. And I will pray to Our Lord that He may guide me in whatever I can do for you." Then Bron knelt before his vessel and said: "Dear Lord God, as truly as this is here Your blessed blood and as You permitted that it be given to me after the death of Joseph and as I have guarded it from then until now, so give me true sign of what I shall do with it henceforth." Then the voice of the Holy Ghost descended and said: "Bron, now know you that the prophecy will be fulfilled that Our Lord pronounced to Joseph. Our Lord commands you that you teach to this man those sacred words which He taught to Joseph in the prison when He gave you the keeping of the Grail, and that you place it in his care for Our Lord. And on the third day from today you will leave this world and will come into the fellowship of the Apostles." Then the voice ended and Bron did just as it had told him and taught him the sacred words that Joseph had taught him, which I cannot nor ought not tell you. And he taught him all the faith of Our Lord, and how he had seen Him as a little child, and how he had seen Him in the temple, there where He had confuted the masters, and also how the high men of the land of Judea had received Him with hatred, and how He had had a false disciple who had sold Him to the Jews, and how he had seen Him lifted onto the cross, and how his brother-in-law who had the name of Joseph had asked for His body, and how Pilate had given it to him, and how he had removed Him from the cross, and also how when he had lain Him upon the earth he saw His blood run upon the earth, and how he felt pity of this, and how he caught it in a vessel, "in this same one that you see there, and in its fellowship can no sinner be seen." And he recounted all the life that his good ancestors had led, and Perceval listened to him most willingly and soon was filled with the grace of the Holy Ghost. And Bron the old placed the vessel in Perceval's keeping between his hands, and from the vessel there came a melody and a scent so precious that it seemed to them that they might be in Paradise with the angels. And Bron who was very old was with Perceval all three days, and on the third day he came before His vessel and there lay down as on a cross and gave thanks to Our Lord. And there he died. And when he had died Perceval came there and watched and saw David with his harp and a host of angels with censers where they awaited the soul of Bron, and they bore him into the Heavenly Reward with his Father whom he had served a long time. And Perceval who was a most worthy man stayed there; and the enchantments fell and disappeared throughout the world. And on this same day King Arthur was at the Round Table that Merlin had founded, and they heard a crash of such greatness that they were frightened most severely by it, and the stone was reunited which had split beneath Perceval when he had sat in the empty place. Then they marveled greatly for they could not understand what this meant. And then Merlin came to Blayse and told him these things and when Blayse heard this he said: "Merlin, you told me that when these works were completed you would put me in the company of the Grail." And Merlin answered him: "Blayse, know that you will be there by tomorrow." And then Merlin took Blayse and bore him to the dwelling of the rich Fisher King who was named Perceval, and he stayed in the company of the Grail. When Merlin had completed this he came to the court of Arthur at Carduel. And when Arthur saw him he rejoiced greatly, and his men asked Arthur to inquire of Merlin what the meaning was of the stone which had reunited at the Round Table. And the king said: "I pray him earnestly that he tell me of it if it pleases him." And Merlin answered: "Arthur, know that in your time was fulfilled the greatest prophecy ever made; for the Fisher King is cured, and the enchantments have fallen from the land of Britain. And Perceval is lord of the Grail by the choice of Our Lord; and now you can see that he is a very worthy man since Our Lord has given him in keeping His exalted blood to guard; and this is the reason that the stone reunited which had split under him. And also, Gavain and Keu, know that it was Perceval himself who was victorious in the tourney of the White Castle and threw you down full length on the earth. Yet I may tell you also that he has taken leave of the doing of knightly deeds and will wish henceforth to hold himself in the grace of his Creator." When the king and the nobles heard this they all wept together and prayed to Our Lord that He would bring him to a good end. Then Merlin took leave of the king and returned to Blayse and to Perceval and he had this all set down in writing. (The Didot is the last of three Grail stories ascribed to Robert de Boron, the other two being Joseph d'Arimathie and Merlin) A Strange White Lady Rougemont and its castles Detached of the canton Haut-Rhinois de Masevaux after our misfortunes of 1870-1871, and incorporated consequently in this artificial creation that the Territory of Belfort constitutes, Rougemont-the- Castle became, at the same time, the chief town of the very new canton, undoubtedly smallest of France, since it includes/understands only 4 communes: Leval, Petitefontaine, Romagny and Rougemont itself. The mention "the Castle" should normally be in the plural, since Rougemont has on its territory the ruins of three castles: One rose with the Mount-Ori, toponym which would seem the German god Thor, rather than the count Ulrich de Ferette, undoubtedly lord of the places in XIIIème century. The second drew up himself with the Mount-of-Balls. The third was with the locality Chapelotte, near to the current church. One rose with the Mount-Ori, toponym which would rather seem to evoke the German god Thor, that the count Ulrich de Ferrette, undoubtedly lord of the places in XIIIe century; the second drew up himself with the Mount-of-Balls, and the third tronvait with the locality Chapelotte, near to the current church. For a long time it was believed - and even the historians let themselves there take - that Rougemont had had only two castles: that of in bottom (Chapelotte) and that of in top, whose ruins are still seen with the Mount-of- Balls and that one called, sometimes wrongly, castle of the Ori Mount, as well because it is located close to this mountain as because the old texts evoke a castle of this name. In fact, a third castle was well with the Mount-Ori, but its ruins since longtemp having disappeared, they are our modern archaeologists, of which Pierre Walter, of Rougemont, who found the trace of it. So that when the historians of formerly and at one time speak to us about the castle about in top, it is not known if it is of that of the Mount-of- Balls or its neighbor of the Mount-Ori. At all events, the castle of the bottom, mentioned for the last time in 1382, disappeared before 1469, since the treaty known as of Saint- Omer, concluded this year between Sigismond from Austria and Charles the Bold one, speaks only about the site which it occupied. The castle the top, in which one can see that of the Mount-of-Balls, was in ruins in 1610; as for its neighbor of the Mount-Ori, there undoubtedly did not exist any more, well before this date. In a valley, between the two castles of in top, a vault dedicated to holy Catherine was. She still remains. The legend of the White Lady A legend sticks to the ruins of the Mount-of-Balls. It could, at the origin, to apply to the castle of the Mount-Ori, then, after the disappearance of this one, to take refuge, to some extent, in the vestiges of the Mount-of-Balls. Let us let the archaeologist of Golbéry, whose text on this subject seems oldest (1828), us tell it naively: sometimes "a white lady comes to sit down on the remains of the tower. A girl being itself one day approached about it, it requested it to total one hour indicated, by announcing to him that a dragon with the ignited mouth, with the terrible glance, would spring towards it of a threatening air; but, added the white lady, one should not any conceive any fright, it is necessary to wait, it is necessary to take in its mouth even a key, which is that of a treasure. After some hesitations, the girl promised all: she came indeed. On its side, the dragon did not fail to be presented. The fire which left its gosier, and its horrible cries, frightened so much this village shy person, whom it did not dare to continue his company. Then a plaintive voice exclaimed: "here thus percent years still captivates Me". The girl died of terror ". Odile Gevin-Cassal, who reports this legend nearly one century afterwards of Golbéry, adds that, once in possession of the key, which is of gold, the girl was to descend a staircase, to open a door with the key, to seize the treasure deposited at the bottom of an underground, to keep for it these richnesses, except for a ciborium which it would give to the priest. As of the first time that serving it the mass would say by using this ciborium (or rather this chalice), the white lady would be saved. To finish, the damsel did not dare to face the dragon with the mouth of fire; she fled with all legs, but did not die however of fright. Lastly, useful precision for the continuation of the account, but that does not mention Golbéry, the attempt was to be made Friday. The White Lady of the Basque Country A similar legend meets in the Basque Country. It is even located, curiously, in a place called Mount-Ohri. summarized here by Sébillot, according to the work of Cerquand: "Legends of the Basque Country". "a shepherd saw one day in the cave of the Ohri Mount a young lady being combed with a gold comb. It says to him: "If you want to draw me on your back from this cave, the day of the Jean Saint, I will give you all that you will wish. But, though you can see on your way, you will not have to be frightened ". The shepherd promised to him, and the day of the Jean Saint, it took the lady on its back and prepared to remove it. But seeing animals of all kinds, a dragon which launched flames, it was taken of fear, gave up its burden and flees. The lady threw a cry terrible and known as: "Maudit be my fate! I am condemned to live thousand more years in this cave!" That two legends built on the same topic are in almost synonymous places, there is what to be questioned. Thus, was the tradition of Rougemont transplanted with the Basque Country, or the reverse? Who will say it? Let us note, however that the Basque Country is placed on the way of Saint-Jacques-of-Compostelle, place of pilgrimage attended formerly, since IXe century, by most of Europe. And it is known that pilgrims, soldiers, sailors, merchants, ménestrels and other travellers largely contributed to the propagation of the tales and the legends. http://cancoillotte.net.free.fr/Sortir/Rougemont.htm __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com --- End forwarded message --- --- End forwarded message --- ------------------------ Yahoo! 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He was found to have his heart white but rotten, and more than a quart of water about it; his liver was indifferent faire, but his lunges black and mortified, his blood was altogether shrunke about the heart so that when he was opened, great quantities of rotten blood issued out from his heart; his milt towards his back was somewhat perished, rough, as if it had been rubbed against a stone. The Founding of New France Throughout the rest of the 16th century the European fishing fleets continued to make almost annual visits to the eastern shores of Canada. Chiefly as a sideline of the fishing industry, there continued an unorganized traffic in furs. At home in Europe new methods of processing furs were developed and beaver hats in particular grew very fashionable. Thus new encouragement was given to the infant fur trade in Canada. In 1598 Troilus de Mesgouez, marquis de la Roche, set out for Canada armed with a new kind of authority--a royal monopoly which gave him the exclusive right to trade in furs. La Roche established a small colony on Sable Island, an isolated Atlantic sandbar southeast of Nova Scotia. The settlement, which proved a dismal failure, was the first of a series of efforts by France to persuade various leaders to set up colonies in Canada in return for an official monopoly of the fur trade. Pierre Chauvin in 1600 established a trading post at Tadoussac, on the St. Lawrence River. This post survived for about three years. In 1604 the fur monopoly was granted to Pierre du Guast, sieur de Monts. He led his first colonizing expedition to an island located near the mouth of the St. Croix River. This in time was to mark the international boundary between the province of New Brunswick and the state of Maine. Among his lieutenants was a geographer named Samuel de Champlain, who promptly carried out a major exploration of the northeastern coastline of what is now the United States (see Champlain). In the spring the St. Croix settlement was moved to a new site across the Bay of Fundy, on the shore of the Annapolis Basin, an inlet in western Nova Scotia. Here at Port Royal in 1605 a settlement Champlain described as the Habitation was established. It was France's most successful colony to date. The land came to be known as Acadia. http://www.linksnorth.com/canada-history/thefounding.html THE BEGINNINGS OF QUEBEC THE year 1598 was a memorable one in the history of France, for it witnessed the death of that insatiable schemer, Philip II. of Spain, supporter of the Guises, and it also saw the end of the long wars of religion and the promulgation of the Edict of Nantes. The time seemed to be more propitious than before for commercial enterprises, and the thoughts of a few bold spirits turned once more to the St. Lawrence. One of these was the Marquis de la Roche, a Breton nobleman, who obtained from Henry IV. a commission very similar to that under which Roberval had sailed. But so little popular interest was felt in the enterprise that volunteers would not come forward, and it became necessary to gather recruits from the jails. The usual scenes of forlorn and squalid tragedy followed. Roche was cast ashore on the Breton coast in a tempest, and was thrown into a dungeon by the king's enemy, the Duke de Merc?ur;1 while his convicts were landed on Sable THE FRENCH MISSIONS AND MISSIONARIES. The missionary spirit was active in the Catholic Church in France when the early voyages of exploration were made to the New World, and side by side with the adventurer in search of gain or fame came the priest, who held it his highest duty to convert the savage nations to Christianity. The Jesuits were first in the mission field of Canada, but they were soon followed by the Recollects, a reformed branch of the Franciscan order. With Champlain, in May, 1615, came four of the Gray Friars, and of these Joseph le Caron was appointed to labor among the Hurons on Georgian Bay. The Recollects invited the assistance of the Jesuit. These missions were scattered throughout New France, and quickly penetrated the region of the Great Lakes. Father Joseph de la Roche d'Aillon founded a mission among the neutral nations on the Niagara river, and urged the French to open up communication by way of Lake Ontario; but he spoke too soon. The mission of the Hurons, begun in 1615 by the Recollects, was continued by the Jesuits. The Hurons dwelt in palisaded villages. Diligently the advocates of the better life labored, and heroically they endured the hardships and privations of the forest life, yet in 1640 they could claim but 100 Christians out of 16,000 Hurons. New stations were formed to the southward among the neutrals, and to the northward among the Algonquin tribes. 1542 Marguerite de La Rocque co-seigneuress of Pointpoint, a close relative of Sieur de Roberval (1500-1560), accompanied him on this years voyage to Canada. Shocked by Marguerite taking a lover, Roberval set her ashore of Ile des Demons in the Saint Lawrence River with her lover and a servant girl. The young man, the servant girl and Marguerite's child which was born on the island, died. Marguerite managed to survive and was rescued two years five month later by French fisherman. This would represent the first recorded Country Marriage and the birth of the first European child in New France (Canada). Hurtleberry pie is introduced into Newfoundland that is made from blueberries, blackberries, bilberries and huckleberries. The term originated about 1450. April 16: Jean Francois de la Rocque de Roberval (1500-1560) sailed from La Rochelle, France with three ships and 200 convicts for America to create a French settlement. June 8: Jean Francois de la Rocque de Roberval (1500-1560) encountered Jacques Cartier (1491-1557) at St. John's Newfoundland and ordered Cartier to return to Canada. Cartier refused this direct order from his superior. Jacques Cartier snuck off in the night, fully aware that Roberval could have him executed (hanged) as a traitor. July: Jean Francois de la Rocque de Roberval (1500-1560) reached Cartier's settlement at Cap Rouge and renamed it France Royal. Michel Gaillon was hanged for theft at France Royal, alias Cap Rouge, Quebec. Roberval lost 50 men to scurvy, indicating that Cartier had not told him of the Indian method to avoid this ailment. This first attempt to start a colony failed. It is noteworthy that competent sailors from Europe were well aware of scurvy and usually gathered the herb alexanders to cure the ailment. This herb was in use since 1 A.D. by the Romans to prevent scurvy. September: Newfoundland sailors (Robert Lefand) reported that Jacques Cartier and Sieur de Roberval (1500-1560), after one year with three ships, had accumulated eleven barrels of gold ore and a quantity of precious stones, rubies and diamonds. This is likely the source for the current saying: false as a diamond of Canada. The gold turned out to be pyrite and the diamonds quartz. It is noteworthy that diamonds would later be discovered in Canada in the twentieth century. September 19: Jean Francois de la Rocque de Roberval (1500-1560) pardoned Aussillon de Sauverterre. GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L Archives From: "Sally Rolls Pavia" <sallypavia2001@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [Genealogy Bits and Pieces] Prime Minister Announces Canada History Centre by E B Lapointe Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:36:53 -0700 On 26 May, 2003, the Honourable Jean Chretien, Prime Minister of Canada, announced the creation of the Canada History Centre. The centre?which will be located in the former Union Railway Station (currently known as the Canadian Conference Centre) in Ottawa, the country's capital?has, as its mandate, the preservation of Canada's political and civic history. In a statement read at the opening, the prime minister said that "Together Canadians have built a nation that is strong, prosperous and free. We must know the builders of our nation to sustain what their mind and hearts, their muscles and their blood, have created." He further added, "The Canada History Centre will bring to life the memories of men and women who, through their lives, their vision and their actions, inscribed their names on the rolls of our history." Although physically located in Ottawa, the centre will collect materials from the Library and Archives of Canada (no word yet as to if this will include the Canadian Genealogy Centre written about in the previous column entitled, "Canadian Genealogy Centre Opens on 29 March, 2003"), as well as other museums and cultural organizations across the country. Much of the material will then be placed in traveling exhibits across the country, and is to be featured on the Internet. It will also be an interactive centre, taking advantage of the many technological innovations in presenting Canadian history to the peoples of the world. Heritage Minister Sheila Copps was also on hand for the announcement, in which she said "Canadians want to know more about our country and our history. Today, through the creation of the centre, the Government of Canada is taking a decisive step to respond to this need." The government will provide funding of approximately $50 million over the next five years towards the development of the Canada History Centre for renovations of the building and in the collection and dissemination of the museum components. In a spate of what seems to be many announcements made over the past couple years by the government concerning cultural subjects, the government is also in the process of building a new Canadian War Museum on unused land at LeBreton Flats (property located by the Portage Bridge over to the city of Gatineau, in the province of Quebec), as well as the Portrait Gallery of Canada, which will be located across from Parliament Hill on Wellington Street. http://www.portraits.gc.ca. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. 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