CryoNet #22750 - #22753

CryoNet - Fri 31 Oct 2003

    #22750: global warming [John de Rivaz]
    #22751: CRYOFEAST [David Pizer]
    #22752: attacks on theraputic cloning damaging medical progress, shortening 
lives [Reason]
    #22753: Re: life extension and population [Philip Rhoades]

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Message #22750
From: "John de Rivaz" <John@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: global warming
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:47:23 -0000

Many of us concerned that effort spent on trying to control global warming
may divert funding away from the problem  of individual ageing and death
will get a boost from the article on
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994321
concerning unusually violent events on the sun.

which includes the comment

>>The findings may stoke the controversy over the contribution of the Sun to
global warming. Usoskin and his team are reluctant to be dragged into the
debate, but their work will probably be seized upon by those who claim that
temperature rises over the past century are the result of changes in the
Sun's output (New Scientist, print edition, 12 April 2003). The link between
the Sun's magnetic activity and the Earth's climate is, however, unclear.<<

Observations elsewhere in the solar system also suggest warming could be
occurring on the planet Mars and even as far out as the moons of Jupiter and
Saturn.

-- 
Sincerely, John de Rivaz:  http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy,  Nomad .. and
more

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Message #22751
From: "David Pizer" <davidpizer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: CRYOFEAST
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:56:16 -0800

Hi All.     The Alcor December Cryofeast will be held at the Creekside Lodge in 
Mayer Arizona on December 21 st  (a Sunday).

EVERY CRYONICIST IS INVITED.

We will furnish a turkey(s) and and each attendee can bring a pot luck type 
entree.

There will be special rates for any cryonicist who comes early and wants a 
cabin Saturday evening.

This will be a good time to meet the new Alcor president and say goodbye to the 
outgoing president.


To get to the Creekside Lodge, go north on Interstate 17 from Phoenix to Cordes 
Junction (about 50 miles) and then turn northwest on State Highway 69 and go 
about 6 miles to the lodge.

More info later ----

David and Trudy Pizer




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Message #22752
From: "Reason" <reason@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: attacks on theraputic cloning damaging medical progress, shortening 
lives
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:08:50 -0800

The attacks on theraputic cloning are causing great damage to medical
progress in this field:

http://www.azdailysun.com/non_sec/nav_includes/story.cfm?storyID=75791
"President Bush's current limitations on stem cell research and a bill that
would place criminal penalties on scientists who use a particular cloning
process are causing biotechnology corporations to fall apart or flee to
other countries, according to a stem cell scientist."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=534&e=3&u=/ap/20031027/ap_on
_sc/stem_cell_research
"if embryonic stem cell research had not been involved in politics we would
be far ahead of where we are today."

Stem cell research and theraputic cloning are fundamental to all the most
promising advances in regenerative medicine. This is not pie in the sky
science: amazing cures - for Parkinson's, heart disease, bone damage, nerve
damage, burns, liver damage, Crohn's, etc - have been demonstrated in the
labs or in early trials, only to be shut down, banned, or die off from lack
of funding. The current US administration - and many other governments
worldwide - have shown that their members do not care how much suffering
they are causing through their policies. Without activism and opposition, we
can all expect to live shorter, more painful lives: regenerative medicine is
a part of the fast track to extended healthy lives.

Please use the following links to see how you can help to make your voice
heard. I urge you to contact your elected representatives and tell them that
what they are doing (or allowing to happen) is immoral and wrong. Hundreds
of millions of people are suffering and dying today, now, from conditions
that could soon be cured, or might already be curable, if not for these
attacks on theraputic cloning and stem cell research.

A total ban on theraputic cloning in the US is still pending:

http://www.longevitymeme.org/projects/oppose_the_theraputic_cloning_ban.cfm

The European Parliament is still looking at banning all stem cell research:

http://www.longevitymeme.org/projects/oppose_the_european_stem_cell_ban.cfm

More information on the UN global ban on theraputic cloning is here:

http://www.longevitymeme.org/projects/oppose_global_theraputic_cloning_ban.c
fm

The FDA has blocked a working therapy for heart disease that could save an
estimated 50,000 lives worldwide every day:

http://www.longevitymeme.org/projects/protest_fda_interference.cfm

If stem cell therapies and theraputic cloning are banned, you, personally,
will one day die from a disease that would be have been curable. Today, now,
150,000 people will die worldwide, mostly from diseases and conditions that
will soon be curable, or would be curable without these attacks on medical
research. Are you going to let that go, or are you going to stand up and
fight the small faction of politicians who are trying to stop progress?

Reason
Founder, Longevity Meme
reason@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.longevitymeme.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wta-politics-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:wta-politics-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Hughes, James
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 12:40 PM
> To: wta-politics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [wta-politics] Move to ban human cloning likely to divide UN
>
>
>
>
http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c
=StoryFT&cid=1066565433416
>
> Move to ban human cloning likely to divide UN
>
> By Mark Turner at the United Nations and Clive Cookson in London
>
> Published: October 28 2003 17:30 | Last Updated: October 28 2003 17:30
>
>
> The US and the UK, normally stalwart allies on the international stage,
> may be heading for a face-off at the United Nations over moves towards
> an international convention banning all forms of human cloning.
>
> Diplomats said a decision was expected this week or early next week on
> whether to press for a vote in the UN General Assembly. Costa Rica, the
> US and almost 60 other countries have sponsored a resolution calling for
> a convention against human cloning to be prepared by next year. In the
> meantime, it says states should prohibit the research, development or
> application of "any technique aimed at human cloning".

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Message #22753
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:02:50 +1100
From: Philip Rhoades <pri@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: life extension and population
References: <20031007090001.71930.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

> Message #22656
> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:14:22 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Charles Platt <other@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: life extension and population


> One last point: Since life extension will cost money, it
> should affect richer nations more than poorer nations.
> Fortunately, richer nations have lower birth rates than
> poorer nations, generally speaking, and are much better
> positioned to tolerate an increased maximum lifespan without
> catastrophic environmental consequences.


True.


> Anyone who worries about population should be much more
> concerned with third-world birth rates than first-world life
> expectancy.


Not true.

The key part of the population problem is consumption of resources -  
first worlders consume hundreds of times more resources per capita than  
third worlders, therefore first worlders are a bigger part of the  
problem.  The situation will really turn into a nightmare if (high  
population) third worlders can start consuming at the rate of first  
worlders . .

R&LL.

Phil.
-- 
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