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CryoNet - Wed 29 Oct 2003

#22743: "Is Cryopresevation a viable reason for a second chance in life?"
[theo christofides]
#22744: Alcor UK meeting in Oxford on 8th of November at 1pm [Sue]
#22745: Re: MSNBC: Have we humans peaked as a species? [Azt28]
#22746: 111'th update on fly longevity experiments [Doug Skrecky]

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Message #22743
From: "theo christofides" <theogologi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: "Is Cryopresevation a viable reason for a second chance in life?"
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:18:20 +0000

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Message #22744
From: "Sue" <sue_123@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Alcor UK meeting in Oxford on 8th of November at 1pm
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:38:00 -0000

ALCOR UK - MEETING INVITATION

You are welcome to come to our next Alcor UK meeting, scheduled for Saturday
the 8th of November at 1pm in Oxford.

The title of the meeting is "Meet Nick Bostrom, transhumanist
philosopher and WTA founder": Nick will give a presentation on
transhumanism, followed by a Q&A session. If you'd like to know more about
Nick, have a look at the website below:
http://www.nickbostrom.com/

We will meet at 1pm for lunch at "Chiang Mai" a Thai restaurant in
the tiny Kemp Hall passage, about 10 meters off 130 High Street.
If you have not met anyone in the group yet - please call the Alcor UK phone
line on 020 7232 0558. Andrew will provide you with his mobile phone number,
which you can call on the day to locate the group.

The talk will take place in a room at the
Philosophy Faculty, but you won't be able to access the room
unaccompanied, so it's essential to meet at the restaurant
beforehand. We will be there until 2.30pm.

Chiang Mai, Kemp Hall Passage, 130A High Street, Oxford OX1 4DH
Tel: (01865) 202233

MAP:

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451392&y=206198&z=1&sv=451250,206250
&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&sear
chp=newsearch.srf
(the Oxford train station is almost visible on the left of the map -
watch out for "xford" in red letters)


NOTE: I will have specimen sign up papers for Alcor with me at this meeting.
Anyone interested in signing up is welcome to read through the paperwork at
the meeting.

Hope to see you there.
Sue


This will be the first of our meetings to be run in
conjunction with Extrobritannia:

The ExtroBritannia homepage:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/extrobritannia

The ExtroBritannia BLOG:
http://www.extrobritannia.blogspot.com




P.S. For those not on the Alcor UK mailing group and wish to subscribe -
please send an email to:

alcor-uk-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx







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Message #22745
From: Azt28@xxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:38:04 EST
Subject: Re: MSNBC: Have we humans peaked as a species?

>From Mark Plus:

> Concorde! Caitie would scream. Daddy, the Concorde!
> If only we all had such faith in our dreams.
>

My opinion is that we have to think about cryonics seriously: we have to act
with the idea of working cryonics and work on long duration projects, one
century or more. In this way, we could for example start to spend money on a
dream
such a new super or hypersonic transport...

Imagine an activitie growing at the Moore's law speed, it could scale up by
one million in 40 years, if you start with $ 100,000, you could look at a $100
billions project.

Many such project would fall before the end, but if only some succed, the
world impact would be tremendous.

Yvan Bozzonetti.


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Message #22746
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:23:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Doug Skrecky <oberon@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 111'th update on fly longevity experiments

This is the 111'th update of my fly longevity experiments. Average
temperature was 25.8 C during this run. Estimated maximal longevity using
the formula (363 - T*11.2) is 74 days.
Control maximum survival was rather poor this time at only 45 days. It
was 51 days for the last run. Of the raw produce extracts, head lettuce,
and acorn squash appeared to be particularly beneficial. At 68 days the
maximum survival for head lettuce was only 8% less than the estimated
maximal longevity under "pathogen free" laboratory conditions. Since I
began recording temperatures, none of the maximum survivals in any of my
experiments has ever exceeded the estimated maximal longevity for the
Oregon-R substrain of drosophila melanogaster.

Run #111 Percent Survival on Day
supplement 9 14 20 25 30 35 40 45 51 57 62 68 74
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control one 82 62 48 40 32 20 8 0 - - - - -
control two 66 62 41 31 28 17 10 7 0 - - - -
lettuce, head 8% 83 76 76 71 55 45 36 21 10 10 5 0 -
lettuce, head 33% 87 87 73 60 53 40 29 22 11 4 4 2 0
radish, leaf 8% 71 61 50 42 29 8 8 3 0 - - - -
radish, leaf 33% 85 76 63 51 49 37 17 17 10 7 5 0 -
radish, root 8% 75 52 40 19 15 15 10 8 4 0 - - -
radish, root 33% 78 76 71 67 56 42 31 18 7 4 4 0 -
squash, acorn 8% 72 72 66 55 49 40 28 17 13 6 6 0 -
squash, acorn 33% 71 71 63 60 54 46 34 26 17 11 6 0 -
squash, spaghetti 8% 69 69 56 56 50 38 31 28 13 3 3 0 -
squash, spaghetti 33% 69 65 58 54 42 27 27 12 8 0 - - -

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