CryoNet #22700 - #22704

CryoNet - Tue 21 Oct 2003

    #22700: funeral directors [John de Rivaz]
    #22701: Platt on Population [THnsn8]
    #22702: Population and immigration [Robin Helweg-Larsen]
    #22703: Longevity report 96 [John de Rivaz]
    #22704: SA's Zoning Hearing, Ownership & Other Info [Flavonoid]

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Message #22700
From: "John de Rivaz" <John@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: funeral directors
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:06:44 +0100

One other way to find co-operative funeral directors may be to try and get a
series of articles about cryonics in a funeral magazine circulating in your
country or state.

Maybe I was very lucky with the UK's Funeral Service Journal. But what
happened was, that I took out a paid advertisement to sell copies of The
Prospect of Immortality, and the editor invited me to write a cryonics
column. It seems that editors of many trade magazines may be short of
editorial copy and would be willing to seek articles on offbeat topics.
Eventually the magazine changed hands and the new people didn't want any
more, but by then cryonics had a reasonable professional standing in the UK.
Now the country has more cryonicists than any other except the USA. [as far
as I know -- maybe someone else knows differently.]

Most of these articles can be found on
http://www.longevity-report.com/funerals.htm

I think the editor had hoped that the articles would whip up a bit of
controversy amongst the otherwise apathetic readership. But they all seemed
to take it in their stride and indeed many sent for free booklets on
cryonics I was offering, some wanting 20 copies or more. I had 200
professionally printed, and they all went over a period of a few years.

I suspect that I was just very, very lucky happening to be in the right
place at the right time. But then if I hadn't tried, then I would never have
known that the opportunity existed. I also tried the same trick with other
relevant professions, but never got away with it a second time.

But if more people try, then maybe someone else will get a similar run of
luck.

-- 
Sincerely, John de Rivaz:  http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy,  Nomad .. and
more

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Message #22701
From: THnsn8@xxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:34:30 EDT
Subject: Platt on Population

In a message dated 20/10/2003 10:00:53 GMT Standard Time, Bob writes:

> Charles, you cite a report or 2 to support your case
> that those concerned with overpopulation are Chicken
> Littles, but is it possible that the entities
> generating such reports have agendas?

At the risk of looking stupid can I ask.......   what the hell is a 'Chicken 
Little'??

Regards....

Tim. 


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Message #22702
From: "Robin Helweg-Larsen" <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Population and immigration
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:58:13 -0400

Bob Thimblerig seems not to like immigrants to the United States.  Many
native peoples might agree with him; but increasing population movements are
a reality, world-wide, for the foreseeable future.

So if you're not comfortable with a very mobile and diverse world, you might
like to rethink plans to wake up 100 years in the future.

Robin HL



>>And to go one step further, when I say that
"immigrants are coming here whether we want them or
not," let's just admit that most Americans do NOT want
more immigrants (polls show that 55-80% of all
Americans want less immigration). So, again, these
powerful entities called "corporate lobbies" and the
"government" do the wanting.


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----Bob

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Message #22703
From: "John de Rivaz" <John@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Longevity report 96
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:29:36 +0100

I have just uploaded Longevity Report 96
http://www.longevity-report.com/lr96.htm

The contents include

Instability  by  Charles Platt
The Costs of Cryonics  by  Steve Harris
Chairman's Report on the Year at Cryonics Europe (illustrated version) by
Chrissie de Rivaz
Nanomedicine, Vol. IIA: Biocompatibility - preview by Robert A. Freitas Jr.
Cryonics magazine back issues on the web - short note and link
Fly Longevity Experiments 96 -110  by  Douglas Skrecky
Emergence of Consciousness  by  Francois - illustrated and with web link to
an experiment you can do yourself
Population Issues  by  Charles Platt

Most if not all of these have been on CryoNet, but you may have missed them
or want to read them again.

There are quite a few new people to these announcements this time. Apologies
if you get them more than once on different lists -- not much I can do about
it.

If any of you want to write specific articles for Longevity Report, then
please send them in. Even if the topic has been covered before, your slant
will be a new one. The publication schedule is now asynchronous. It depends
on people sending in articles or me finding interesting ones on the
Internet.

-- 
Sincerely, John de Rivaz:  http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy,  Nomad .. and
more

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Message #22704
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:59:39 -0400
From: Flavonoid@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: SA's Zoning Hearing, Ownership & Other Info

<http://www.bocaratonnews.com/index.php?src=news&category=LOCAL%20NEWS&prid=6579>

They freeze dead people

Suspended Animation s request for permit to do  cryopreservation  in Boca 
to be heard Thursday

Published Tuesday, October 21, 2003
by Dale M. King

Just eight days shy of Halloween, the Boca Raton Planning & Zoning Board 
will hear one of its most chilling requests.

Suspended Animation Inc., the Boca-based firm that wants to conduct 
research into  cryopreservation    extreme low-temperature freezing of 
bodies for eventual revival   will ask P&Z on Thursday for permission to do 
the work at its current location, 1082 Rogers Circle in the South Congress 
Industrial Center.

The Planning & Zoning Board will make a recommendation to the City Council, 
which has the final say in the matter. The council will hold a public 
hearing at a later date.

P&Z meets Thursday at 6:30 p.m. in City Hall.

If the request is approved, Suspended Animation Inc. will become Florida s 
only cryonics facility for humans   and one of only a few in the United States.

In its application, the firm says most of its work will be in research on 
the cryogenics process. Documents say no more than five cadavers will be 
frozen during the year for storage at a facility owned by Alcor Life 
Extension Foundation.

The idea of freezing bodies for eventual revival gained new recognition   
not to mention infamy   when retired Boston Red Sox slugger Ted Williams 
was frozen after his death. The case made headlines not only for the 
cryogenics process, but for the argument among his children about whether 
dad should be cremated or quick-frozen.

There is a connection. In its filing, Suspended Animation says it is a 
subcontractor for Alcor. And any bodies frozen in Boca will go to one of 
Alcor s storage facilities. Williams is on ice in Arizona.

Most of the company s research will be on animals, specifically rats, and 
on human cadavers in order to discover a way to preserve a whole body 
without damaging tissue. Although about 90 percent of the company s 
business will consist of research, according to its filings with the city, 
it will be staffed with medical professionals able to place a person into a 
deep freeze.

 We don t store any bodies. We do front end work in cryonics,  company 
President David Shumaker said in an interview earlier this year. About 
1,000 people have signed up to be frozen in the name of science, according 
to the company s filing.

The application said the firm s 35,500-square foot building will remain 
virtually unchanged. Plans call for the creation of a couple of labs and a 
preparation room inside, but nothing that would change the exterior.

The Life Extension Foundation of Fort Lauderdale funds Suspended Animation 
Inc., its application says, and 5300 Palisades Avenue Association LLC of 
New Jersey owns it.


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