CryoNet #22680 - #22682

CryoNet - Thu 16 Oct 2003

    #22680: population again [Charles Platt]
    #22681: Futurists put their money where their mouths are [James Swayze]
    #22682: we will have plenty to sell [David Pizer]

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Message #22680
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:14:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Charles Platt <other@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: population again

Mark Plus is still worried about population, although I find
it hard to understand why.

>From a UN report, Feb 26 2003 at
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2003/pop850.doc.htm:


"As a result of these trends, the population of more
developed regions, currently at 1.2 billion, is anticipated
to change little during the next 50 years. In addition,
because fertility levels for most of the developed countries
are expected to remain below replacement level during
2000-2050, the populations of 33 countries are projected to
be smaller by mid-century than today (e.g., 14 per cent
smaller in Japan; 22 per cent smaller in Italy, and between
30 and 50 per cent smaller in the cases of Bulgaria, Estonia,
Georgia, Latvia, the Russian Federation and Ukraine)."


At http://www.nationmaster.com/country/us/People the US is
listed with 2.07 children per female lifetime. This
is near replacement level. Therefore the population growth
that still exists in the US is caused almost entirely by
immigration. If an agricultural crisis develops (which I find
totally implausible) obviously immigration quotas will be
revised downward.


According to the 1999 CIA World Factbook, population density
of the United States was about 30 people per square
kilometer, placing it 177th in the global list of nations. By
comparison population of South Korea was 477 people per
square kilometer; Japan, 337 people; Taiwan, 685 people;
Netherlands, 466 people; United Kingdom, 245 people. Of
course some parts of the United States are unsuitable for
agriculture, but this is also true of the other nations
listed (especially Japan).


I have been reading about the dire consequences of
overpopulation since the 1960s. It remains an unfulfilled
prophecy.

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Message #22681
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:13:16 -0700
From: James Swayze <swayzej@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Futurists put their money where their mouths are

http://news.com.com/2100-1023-869205.html

James

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Message #22682
From: "David Pizer" <davidpizer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: we will have plenty to sell
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:08:39 -0700

Mark posted:
"Apparently the U.S. is adding the equivalent of another Chicago (3 million) 
every year, due to the combination of immigration and natural increase. 
According to Dobbs's show, every additional American needs an acre of 
farmland to feed, so if the current growth continues, by 2030 the domestic 
population will be eating all the agricultural output with nothing left over 
for export."

No doubt Lou used the present yields per acre for his predictions and did not 
take into consideration that in 2030 we will be able to produce much more per 
acre then we do now.

David

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