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CryoNet - Fri 3 Oct 2003

#22626: metubin use in a 1994 Alcor case [John de Rivaz]
#22627: Re: The Great White Lodge of Cryonics [David Stodolsky]
#22628: CNN: World oil and gas 'running out' [Mark Plus]
#22629: how the brain stacks up [Doug Skrecky]
#22630: Alcor [Basie]

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Message #22626
From: "John de Rivaz" <John@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: metubin use in a 1994 Alcor case
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:39:59 +0100

With reference to the message I forwarded yesterday from Eugen Leitl that
was " in response to the FUD message on metubin use in a 1994 Alcor case --
very reminiscent of Dora Kent."

Those who didn't click on the html link and/or note the use of the word "
foreleg" in the second line may jump to the conclusion that this was taken
from a description of a human cryopreservation. I should have made it
clearer in the text accompanying the forward that this was a paste from
sci.cryonics concerning a feline cryopreservation.

--
Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and
more

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Message #22627
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:24:58 +0200
Subject: Re: The Great White Lodge of Cryonics
From: David Stodolsky <david.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, at 05:41 PM, Scott Badger wrote:

> From: David Stodolsky
> <david.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> "This may be true if it is a way of life that is being
>
> offered. If it is cryonic suspension, then the best
> time is in middle age, when people are coming to terms
> with their mortality."
>
> Actually, the survey I conducted a few years ago
> indicated just the opposite (WTA's Journal of
> Evolution and Technology, Dec 1998). I think the
> middle-aged are too involved in their lives to really
> think that much about their deaths. The most
> interested were the younger and the older populations.

Maybe, but the fact that people first come to terms with mortality in
middle age is well documented. I don't have the ref handy, probably
Kastenmeir's (sp?) book would be the place to look.

There could be a big difference between 'thinking a lot' and coming to
a conclusion. Particularly, with mortality questions, which tend to be
repressed.


dss



David S. Stodolsky davidstodolsky@xxxxxxx SpamTo: bin@xxxxxxxxxxxx

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Message #22628
From: "Mark Plus" <markplus@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: CNN: World oil and gas 'running out'
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 10:52:24 -0700

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/02/global.warming/

World oil and gas 'running out'
By CNN's Graham Jones
Thursday, October 2, 2003 Posted: 1245 GMT ( 8:45 PM HKT)



Global oil supplies will peak soon after 2010, Swedish scientists say.


LONDON, England -- Global warming will never bring a "doomsday scenario" a
team of scientists says -- because oil and gas are running out much faster
than thought.

The world's oil reserves are up to 80 percent less than predicted, a team
from Sweden's University of Uppsala says. Production levels will peak in
about 10 years' time, they say.

"Non-fossil fuels must come in much stronger than it had been hoped,"
Professor Kjell Alekett told CNN.

Oil production levels will hit their maximum soon after 2010 with gas
supplies peaking not long afterwards, the Swedish geologists say.

At that point prices for petrol and other fuels will reach disastrous
levels. Earlier studies have predicted oil supplies will not start falling
until 2050.

Alekett said that his team had examined data on oil and gas reserves from
all over the world and we were "facing a very critical situation globally."

"The thing we are surprised of is that people in general are not aware of
the decline in supplies and the extent to which it will affect production.

"The decline of oil and gas will affect the world population more than
climate change."

According to the Uppsala team, nightmare predictions of melting ice caps and
searing temperatures will never come to pass because the reserves of oil and
gas just are not big enough to create that much carbon dioxide (CO2).

Alekett said that as well as there being inflated estimates, some countries
in the Middle East had exaggerated the amount of reserves they had.

Coal-burning could easily make up the shortfall. But burning coal would be
even worse for the planet, as it would create even more CO2, he said.

Predictions of global meltdown by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
Change (IPCC) sparked the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, an agreement obliging
signatory nations to cut CO2 emissions.

The IPCC examined a range of future scenarios, from profligate burning of
fossil-fuels to a fast transition towards greener energy sources.

The Uppsala team say the amount of oil and gas left is the equivalent of
around 3,500 billion barrels of oil -- the IPCC say between 5,000 and 18,000
billion barrels.

Alekett said his team had now established what they called the "Uppsala
Protocol" to initiate discussion on how the problems of declining reserves
could be tackled -- protecting the world economy but also addressing the
problem of climate change.

The conclusions of the Uppsala team were revealed in the magazine New
Scientist Thursday, and Nebojsa Nakicenovic, of the University of Vienna who
headed the IPCC team said it was standing by its figures.

He said they had factored in a much broader and internationally accepted
range of oil and gas estimates then the "conservative" Swedes.

A conference in Russia this week heard a warning that global warming kills
about 160,000 people through its effects every year. The numbers dying from
"side-effects" of climate change, such as malaria and malnutrition, could
almost double by 2020, the climate change conference in Moscow was told.

"We estimate that climate change may already be causing in the region of
160,000 deaths... a year," Andrew Haines of the UK's London School of
Hygiene and Tropical Medicine said. (Full story)

Most deaths would be in developing nations in Africa, Latin America and
Southeast Asia, says Haines. These regions would be worst hit by the spread
of malnutrition, diarrhea and malaria as a result of warmer temperatures,
droughts and floods.

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Message #22629
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:15:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Doug Skrecky <oberon@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: how the brain stacks up

Salk Researcher Provides New View On How The Brain Functions

In the Sept. 26 issue of Science, Salk Institute professor Terrence
Sejnowski and University of Cambridge professor Simon Laughlin argue that
the human brain has evolved to operate as an enormously efficient "hybrid
device," capable of making far more sophisticated computations than the
most powerful computers, and the long-distance communication systems in
brains have been optimized by evolution for energy efficiency.
As the brain has evolved over millions of years, according to Sejnowski,
it has become amazingly efficient and powerful. He says that nature has
"optimized the structure and function of cortical networks with design
principles similar to those used in electronic networks." To illustrate
the brain's tremendous capacity, Sejnowski and Laughlin state that the
potential bandwidth of all of the neurons in the human cortex is
"comparable to the total world backbone capacity of the Internet in 2002."

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Message #22630
From: "Basie" <coetzeebasie@xxxxxxxxx>
References: <20031002090001.57880.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Alcor
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 02:10:53 -0400

"Sadly, I may need a contingency plan if the Larry
Johnson fiasco continues to mushroom."

Where will you go? If Alcor is closed there will no more suspensions
anywhere. It is probable time to look at chemical suspensions. If nanobots
can fix damage due to freezing they should have no problems with cross
linking.

Basie

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