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Subject: Re: Chrein - msg#00204List: culture.religion.jewish.avodah> R' Zev Sero brought an indication from the SA haRav that cracker-style matzos > weren't all that old when it was written. I think I misremembered. At least, I can't find it now. What I did find as a recent change is the emphasis on speed - the custom of doing an entire batch, from adding the water to the flour until the final baking, in less than 18 minutes. That was a recent innovation. The older custom had been to take a long time kneading the dough, making sure it was thoroughly kneaded, and the 18-minute clock only started once the dough was ready. But by the SAH's day the modern custom had caught on, and he seems to approve of it, but points out that there is a down side - the dough can no longer be guaranteed to be thoroughly kneaded, because of the rush to get it ready for rolling, perforation, and baking. > [the three] matzos were [...] made from an issaron of flour, enough for > everybody to get a kezayis without supplementing "from the box" It seems from the SAH that this was still the custom in his day; the change to smaller matzot must have taken place even more recently. -- Zev Sero Something has gone seriously awry with this Court's zev@xxxxxxxxx interpretation of the Constitution. - Clarence Thomas _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org Thread at a glance:
Previous Message by Date: click to view message previewRe: ChreinOn Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:07:03 -0700 A & C Walters <acwalters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >(Maybe to be someich on the Ta"z that holds that the shiur of >shnapps is >much less than a revi'is (beinyan brocho achrono), and on a shneps >gleizel >one can say borei nefoshes. We don't, however, pasken like the >Ta"z here, as >sofek brochos lekulo, but many (Chasidim) are soimech on the Ta"z >to make >Kiddish shabos morning with only a shneps gleizel of whisky) If one relies on a b'erech 3 fl. oz. revi'is, that's a standard double shot. Is a "shneps gleizel" smaller than that? -- Daniel M. Israel dmi1@xxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org Next Message by Date: click to view message previewRe: ChreinDaniel Israel wrote: > A & C Walters <acwalters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> sofek brochos lekulo, but many (Chasidim) are soimech on the Ta"z >> to make Kiddish shabos morning with only a shneps gleizel of whisky) > If one relies on a b'erech 3 fl. oz. revi'is, that's a standard > double shot. Is a "shneps gleizel" smaller than that? In my experience, a shot glass holds between 30 and 45 ml. According to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_glass in the USA a single shot is 1.5 ounces, and a one-ounce glass is called a "pony shot". If this is the case, then a "double shot" would indeed be a revi'is. But I don't recall ever seeing such a glass, and if I did I don't think I'd call it a "kelishek" or "shnaps glezel". -- Zev Sero Something has gone seriously awry with this Court's zev@xxxxxxxxx interpretation of the Constitution. - Clarence Thomas _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org Previous Message by Thread: click to view message previewRe: ChreinOn 2/22/07, Micha Berger <micha@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > As for preferable... How can one say "kein asah Hillel" and make a sandwich > when one has the ability to actually make a wrap, just as Hillel did? Is the "kein asah Hillel" that you have a "shwarma in a laffa" or that all the components are eaten together? Saul _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org Next Message by Thread: click to view message previewRe: ChreinOn Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:07:03 -0700 A & C Walters <acwalters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >(Maybe to be someich on the Ta"z that holds that the shiur of >shnapps is >much less than a revi'is (beinyan brocho achrono), and on a shneps >gleizel >one can say borei nefoshes. We don't, however, pasken like the >Ta"z here, as >sofek brochos lekulo, but many (Chasidim) are soimech on the Ta"z >to make >Kiddish shabos morning with only a shneps gleizel of whisky) If one relies on a b'erech 3 fl. oz. revi'is, that's a standard double shot. Is a "shneps gleizel" smaller than that? -- Daniel M. Israel dmi1@xxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org Loading Comments...
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