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Re: My Noah Problem: msg#00318culture.religion.jewish.avodah
Jonathan Baker wrote: > So, any of you religious minds have any thoughts on > my Noach problem? http://thanbook.blogspot.com > > How do I reconcile the God who keeps saying "oops" > in the Flood story: "oops I shouldn't have created > Man", "oops I went too far in destroying", with > the common medieval God-images of the omnipotent, > omniscient God? It's the "etz pri -> etz oseh pri" > problem writ large. The root of your problem is in the word N-Ch-M (vayinachem, ki nichamti), which you translate in the conventional manner as regret, which implies that He realised He had made a mistake. That's precisely why Rashi (6:6-7) takes care to translate the word differently. He first cites Onkelos's translation, as "to take comfort", and then gives his own, "to consider a future course of action". In other words, He did not regret his past actions, but took note of them and their result when considering what to do next. Think of someone planning out a game of strategy. "I'll do this, and then he'll do this so I'll do that, and then when he does this I'll do the other". All this is planned out before the first move is made, and the early moves are not mistakes, even though the later moves are caused by what the opponent does. One may object that if this is so, then why does the decision to bring the flood come after the world turns corrupt, and why does the decision not to bring any more floods come after the effects of the first one become apparent. But the premise of this objection is the fallacy that He acts in time. We're biologically incapable of comprehending a lack of time; in our minds everything has to happen after one thing and before another. But when He is described as making a decision "after" something happens, it can only mean that the event played a part in the decision, so that the decision comes logically after the event, not temporally. The fact that humanity would become corrupt played no part in the decision to make humanity in the first place, but it did play a part in the decision to bring the flood; therefore the logical place to tell us about it comes between the two decisions. Similarly, He decided to bring only one global flood, but no more than one, because the destruction of such a flood would be too much to inflict twice; i.e. the fact of the destruction was not a reason to keep the number of such floods down to zero, but it was a reason to keep it down to one. Therefore the logical place to describe the destruction comes between the decision to bring one flood and the decision not to bring more than one. Kach nir'eh li. -- Zev Sero Something has gone seriously awry with this Court's zev@xxxxxxxxx interpretation of the Constitution. - Clarence Thomas _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org |
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