Re: Need Personal Loans so I can Collect Online Donations

On Tuesday 08 November 2005 09:25, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 07, 2005, Shlomi Fish wrote about "[hackers-il] Need Personal 
Loans so I can Collect Online Donations":
> > For this, I decided to add a PayPal donation button to my sites, so
> > people can donate money for me in exchange for benefiting from the fruits
> > of my labour. In order to accept credit cards donations PayPal requires
> > two things:
> >
> > 1. An international credit card.
> >
> > 2. An account in a U.S. bank.
>
> I assume you need just one of these, not both? If you need just one, it's
> good you chose to try option #1 - you can forget about option #2.
>

I don't know - it's possible I need both. As for #2, I can get an account 
there, either from an online filling of the details or from an American bank 
that my Israeli bank has contacts with.

> > I recently opened an account at FIBI and they told me that in order to
> > get an international credit card I need to reserve 15,000 NIS. I don't
> > have this kind of money at the moment, and since I need a PayPal account
> > to collect it, I have a chicken and egg problem. But I figured out a way
> > to resolve it.
>
> Have you considered other options 

Yes, I did.

> before coming to us with such an 
> unbelievable request? Here are other options I can think of:
>

Why is it unbelievable?

> 1. Try other banks or other credit card companies. Often, they will agree
>    to give you good terms (and a credit card), even if you're broke, if
>    someone else vouches for you. For young people, this is typically your
>    parents. Have you considered opening an account at the branch your
>    parents have an account, or at one they are known?

I want the FIBI bank, because they have good support for Mozilla, and are also 
well-aware of standards.

>
> 2. Ask you parents, sister, uncle, cousin, close friend, or who knows who,
>    that already has a credit card, to use theirs. You can promise them that
>    they will only *get* money to that credit card - you won't charge them
>    any money. But obviously you'll need to ask someone close for such a
>    favor - don't try to ask people on a mailing list ;-)

I could try to get my father to use his credit card. However, last time he had 
some resistance to give PayPal his credit card number out of fear they'll 
abuse it.

>
> One of these options is what every young adult I know did, in the beginning
> of his or her banking "carreer".
>
> > If you feel that you know me well and that my work is worthy, please
> > consider giving me a personal loan of several 1,000's NIS. I will use it
> > to set up my PayPal account and to eventually gather enough money to pay
> > it back. (Possibly with some interest).
>
> Sounds like what Suha Arafat asked of me when she had $100,000,000 to
> smuggle out of the country of her husbad's hidden money. Then she just
> took the $5000 I gave her, and disappeared! :-) (it it isn't clear, I'm
> joking...)

Heh.

>
> But I guess you're not phishing - you're fish-ing! (sorry, had to use that
> pun..).

I'm EvilPHishing....:

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030803&mode=classic

and see the icon at:

http://www.shlomifish.org/

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish

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