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and back to you on the stuff.: msg#00010culture.discuss.our-culture-capitol
Colin, This will be a brief answer, as I am currently challenged with different things in my life, where I desire to spend most of my energy. I guess that if you have decided to develop a monastic order, what I will say next won't be very relevant: serial killer is maybe a bit extreme, and this is not what I had in mind. How about someone believing that something would be good for the group and putting all its effort to do and some members of the group believing that it is not good for the group - you then have a conflict of belief system and the next question is who is 'right'... And this is the entire issue of this society, some people believe they are right and the others wrong and vise versa - this is in the political aspect, in the religious aspect of this society just to name a few and now yours... I allow myself to repeat that what ever you resist will persist... Anarchy: A state of lawlessness and disorder (usually resulting from a failure of government) Capitalism : An economic system based on private ownership of capital So anarcho-capitalism = A lawless and disordered economic system based on private ownership of capital or an economic system based on lawless and disordered private ownership of capital? Which one feels more right to you? None of them to me. Money (as what it is, just a medium of exchange) has always existed - it used to be grain, it might even have been stones at some stage. Even 5 thousend years ago, people died of hunger because they did not have enough of it. So it may look green or yellow, it makes no difference. Also, it has been here for so long that I am curious to know how you actually plan to get people to change their minds on the importance of it. I personally welcome money for the great opportunity it offers me. With it here is what one can create and use in the way society currently works: http://www.seventhgeneration.com/ (which is there to re-create and protect the ecosystem, just like Burt's Bees, just to name an other one. Without money those guys could not do what they do...) And as I believe it is not likely to change, I am embracing it and I love it for the freedom it gives me to create on a massive scale what I believe my mission is on this planet... I know that money can be used for so called bad things (I say 'so called' because I believe that everything is perfect the way it is and with that, there can be no right or wrong and no good and bad.) - and the question is then - is the money bad or is the person behind the money bad? ... Oh and I just read through Orion's note, and I also can see how it could be re-thought and I agree with the statement "the greatest failing of communism was discrediting all other alternatives" - And it also failed because the human greed is still there and that some people were 'more equal' than others and had better apartements or incentives - I experienced what was called East Berlin - and it was not rosy... On another note here something that you might not of interest, though maybe not directly related to the above. http://www.seventhgeneration.com/page.asp?id=1413 http://www.slowfood.com/ More regarding the monastic order - it made me think of my Vipassana meditations (If you are not familiar http://www.dhamma.org/) to some extend. I know for sure that I would not join such orders. Also I wonder about what is the source of your ideas? What fuels it? I have a feeling of anti-something and the society is what comes easier to go against... what are you angry at? Just a thought, maybe I am just putting my current challenges into it and my mind might be clouded. I do see that society is not as efficient as it could be, and I believe that this is based on a way of thinking dating back over 100 years ago, where you had to go to school, get good grades to get a good job and then be a success. We have forgotten people's soul and what is most important to each of them. We all seek to live a happy pleasant life, and our views of it often differs and if people are given the choice, they will choose what is best for them and others around them. I also see that there are people out there dying of hunger and thirst and sickness and I believe that we can change that - not by fighting against it (here the key word is against - and I will repeat myself with what ever you resist will persist), more by re-aligning. I have spent more time on this email than originally planned. I hope that I have not rambled off too much, and I am not re-reading it - so apologies if some stuff does not seem to make sense to you. Sandrine ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Rent DVDs Online - Over 14,500 titles. No Late Fees & Free Shipping. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/YoVfrB/XP.FAA/uetFAA/.DlolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: OurCultureOurCapitol-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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