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Fwd: Burning Jet Fuel and Office Furniture Can NOT Melt Steel: msg#00689
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Begin forwarded message: Date: August 31, 2005 12:36:41 AM PDT Cc: Jim Marrs <therealjimmarrs@xxxxxxxxx>, leon lisbona <llisbona@xxxxxxxxxx>, Art Greenfield <ANTIGRAY@xxxxxx>, Ken Jenkins <kenjenkins@xxxxxxx>, RU Sirius <rusirius@xxxxxxxx>, david mosier <daviddossier@xxxxxxxxx>, Hank Harrison <hankharrison916@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Dan Smith <dantsmith@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Colin Bennett <sharkley1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, S-P Sirag <sirag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, JINSA Info <info@xxxxxxxxx>, David Horowitz <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Ed Komarek <edkomarek@xxxxxxxxx>, Dick Farley <CloudRider@xxxxxxx>, Robert Wood <drbobwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, leirprivate@xxxxxxx, Kim Burrafato <lensman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Mark Pesses <mpogO@xxxxxxx>, Ron Pandolfi <pandolfi@xxxxxxxxx>, Kit Green <cgreen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Cliff May <cliff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, sonata <sonata@xxxxxxxxxx>, RICK DOTY <rickdoty166@xxxxxxx>, Gene Loscowski <gene.loscowski@xxxxxxxxx>, wayne wilson <wlw3@xxxxxxx>, galen <denzen@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Burning Jet Fuel and Office Furniture Can NOT Melt Steel
Jack,
Your most recent e-mail helped me understand why you're unable and unwilling to understand what really happened on 9-11 -- you're an admitted USG insider! If you were hand-picked at an early age and educated by the USG, of course you'll not be able to grok what really happened on 9-11. You were literally raised on USG propaganda!
I've tried to make it very simple for you. I've boiled the entire 9-11 argument down to a single vexing problem for the USG official narrative: the widely reported fact that there was molten steel at the sub-basements of the WTC towers. If you're capable of doing higher math, you should be able to understand that there's no way jet fuel and office furniture burning in the atmosphere can possibly melt massive steel columns... seven floors underground, no less. Steel melts at about 1500 Celsius. Jet fuel is effectively kerosene and burns in the atmosphere at only a fraction of this temperature. Besides that, most of the jet fuel burned off in the first minutes after the planes hit.
Jack, i'm convinced that you're incapable of understanding what happened on 9-11 because your mind is closed. And please don't try to roll out Occam's Razor to support your incompetence theory because, as i said earlier, incompetence does NOT explain the molten steel that persisted for several weeks at the WTC site. Occam doesn't state just that the simplest theory must be correct, but that the simplest theory that also does the best job of actually explaining what is known must be correct. My 'theory', that WTC 1, 2, and 7 were intentionally demolished in controlled demolitions, explains the molten steel; your theory, that the jets brought down the buildings, does NOT explain the molten steel.
It's that simple Jack, as 'smart' as you think you are, you're wrong about 9-11, and it all boils down to the melting point of steel... pun intended.
Regards,
Dennis "galen" Mitrzyk
PS: I don't know where Sklar went after Michigan, but i do remember him as being one of the most pompous, self-important people i've ever met. I guess that's to be expected when you're raised as a SuperKid. ; )
Jack Sarfatti wrote:
On Aug 30, 2005, at 11:46 AM, galen wrote:
Jack,
I just listened to your recent interview with RU Sirius... well done.
There are actually TWO shows. Go to R.U.'s site.
When i studied Physics and Math at UM before getting my MBA i was very interested in spacetime. I took Sklar's course on the philosophy of spacetime.
Larry Sklar was part of Walter Breen's SUPERKIDS that I was in. I met him at Breen's as a teenager. Did he go to Oberlin or to University of Chicago?
Jack, you seem to be a reasonable and intelligent person so i'm having a difficult time reconciling your statements about 9-11. Your 'logic' that we can't be right about 9-11 being an inside job because we haven't been killed can just as well be applied to you, but i don't question the veracity of your claims about ETs.
No, because I WORK WITH THE USG INTELLIGENCE in an informal way for years. They need my expertise and also I do not believe this 9-11 conspiracy nonsense because I have a pretty good idea of how the inside really works. LOTS OF INCOMPETENCE FOR SURE! You do not need TREASON to explain 9-11 - just SHEER STUPIDITY & INCOMPETENCE of key people. Occam's Razor. You should remember my professors at Cornell built the A Bomb at Los Alamos. I am one of the Golden Geese since childhood. I was educated & financed by leaders of the USG Technology Elite , National Defense Fellowship- Project Jason & all that. Read my autobiography Destiny Matrix. They won't kill me, but they will kill you if you are right. Fortunately for you and all the Wacko Lefties (who I know well since the 60's BTW with Angela Davis, Black Panthers, and Herbert Marcuse at Brandeis and UCSD La Jolla) you are wrong and you will continue to live in freedom - unless the Islamofascists win and then THEY will cut your head off (and mine).
Furthermore, you don't need to know anything about 9-11 other than there was molten steel widely reported below ground level of the WTC towers to conclude it was an inside job. Burning jet fuel and office furniture does NOT burn hot enough to melt steel... not even close.
I don't know that without further study. I don't have time for it. The whole idea is preposterous. I know the mindset of the people in power from the inside and I assure you the whole idea is preposterous. None of them are diabolical enough not even Cheney. They really are patriotic and tears well up in their eyes when they sing America The Beautiful. I was recently June 16, 2005 at a dinner on Park Avenue with a few hundred of them. BTW I was sitting with people who OWNED large percentages of WTC & 7 and they were really pissed off at losing their friends and property and they are all close buddies of Cheney & Bush and finance them! 9-11 was not an abstraction for them.
As for the attached attack on my character and person by your friend Art Greenfield, i have only this to say: I don't know a single person who has met me or spoken with me who would describe me as a "jerkoff", "twisted", or an "idiot". After earning degrees in Physics, Math, and Business, i left the University of Michigan with $14,000 in loans as i paid for most of my education myself. After working for 19 years with HP i was able to 'retire' at the age of 44 -- thanks to smart money management -- to pursue music, writing, and social activism. Since 9-11 i have spent countless hours researching what really happened that fateful day and i am so sure that it was an inside job that i'm willing to bet my life that it was. I'm doing everything i can to stop the miscreants who planned and executed 9-11 from doing another "false flag" operation because after the next one they're going to declare martial law and they're going to do a preemptive nuclear attack on Iran. If you encourage ad hominem attacks on me by your devotees -- like the goober Art Greenfield -- it reflects very negatively on you Jack.
I don't encourage anyone. I say what I think. They say what they think. I am not a Cult Leader. If I would be anything, I would be Capi di Tutti Capi and run ALL the Casinos including the ones in Hong Kong! :-)
I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt because i respect your work, but if you allow your minions to spew garbage at me the way Mister Greenfield has with nary a word from you, i have to wonder about your character.
Blessings,
Dennis "galen" Mitrzyk
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